From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 5 07:33:43 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B44342F27 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 07:33:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49dZBt4Wrbz4KGQ for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 07:33:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.8.33.179]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1N9MlI-1ivYDW4404-015GIF; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 09:33:39 +0200 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 09:33:38 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Brandon helsley Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minimal skills Message-Id: <20200605093338.8a831d58.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20200604005859.ca438474.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200604020051.0c02472d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200604074134.89eb6518.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200604225938.3baf5056ebd397f4a4acf81c@sohara.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:07+Gk8tPQ7hCcXMEoxGA0KTcDm5qc+isQLBUjHI4scGpRY7HSA+ n7+U/06dcmANzMdSuIVMCncT85kRm24x876aZMLQmPeLDZXimuRJ8tF0bYCJiHPZRow/ZPK 9PsrHzh2WVSg9IXvrS6ruy//qL06/DecWDi9CArirwSq5Sowo3fABwaRMLpmhsxwOLbHEI0 dFc5X/f5sDFfPazaRsRcA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:u+mXsWJG3L4=:DPYghLBbowoob1ln7Cyn48 /R9BndICW+KKZlLGmQVErO9Ma2vk91Oe8atVlyxQNw5NQbOrEpVfeRHnUiih/oj60nw6oMaGa xphwk8uHQ9UOqDQY7e3yQeQvU4ADN28meabK81g6H9D/ZDyPQ4jdP/1lHC1ybR0+Y3FxLX+QX FAKbcJsvHZjQ03QLgMMqoFC6ZekrQKoHHQB+pgQHwbJavqug8ddwIFKi6VXyz6k9jQQh9mrrg rRm7Cz9dLbt3ZAMeG0dvS3yyzInoGWHcb+YPJzDyclGCJHNbQumJxHsS9y+i5d1WtL6Qd//la K9bUuirhj56oIyyDv3E3drWRHgo/xJepzNi8whlfl5XURbFhDQCjjkIVok2ff9FuD2MlqcpYa 0QN5yxDYMRlRrJ6Y9U6npggRXQtOz1OaCheceaJFLNQmQrUEaDQSQynjUNkH/hASloPsMRhFs LwiZ73LeyrOXbivgmLpcm0bC75gaK1fmY6z6iCgVyye/zH4vSvmubxd1THu4yV/uBiCrO/kf6 2FceStBqjRAguIefeuBfOcjGVlVg98ZQH1UsmVVC5RAXraGwwhG6Qq97/O67e/ntK1nHCFk/r 6VHNeStnDH81P39YUr1lLQc7D47fr+aSAVvi191ltvezxiptVU4AFwXGj11b73jmPdPFJyflK V8eDh5z8cXtxyPzcvK+yAENCGTrNfxcPCerWxzfPNbHeDZPsR0BBIvU+ilTJ/q8zpilchRH4G HF9PyOfhIT3a8PXjcRUIeCDqyZ6etXEFCAFSjEfXPpbVxwFCMKZDXkOTVUgHYLdN+UzSaV0lS KYc2ZFHO+G+Zt65JoE6yN1JCLPaw0N+jpFjD5YTCF020xI2ryofX6j27y9NUF5Y3JQfrj9ldc MCAUr4dCKaZBu/JFKO7g== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49dZBt4Wrbz4KGQ X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.99 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.55)[-0.546]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[hotmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.8.33.179:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.90)[-0.896]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.04)[0.036]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.126.131:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.126.131:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 07:33:44 -0000 On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 00:20:11 -0600, Brandon helsley wrote: > I see, but don't I need to configure sendmail or postfix to have > access to my mailboxes offline? Correct - this is not needed. The MUA manages this for you. You don't need to deal with sendmail or install postfix. MUAs like Thunderbird will make your mailboxes available offline, and only synchronize your changes (you delete a message in the MUA - the MUA tells the server to delete the message on the server, and deletes the locally cached file, for example). > Or can I just transfer email using mbox with thunderbird and have > it displayed on the command line without an MTA? offline. That doesn't sound useful. You could use fetchmail to get your messages via IMAP. This results in a mbox-formatted file, typically located in your local user's mail queue, /var/mail/. >From this file, other mail programs can read, "incorporate from spool" - in fact, that's what I'm doing with fetchmail + Sylpheed. You still need your MUA configured for IMAP or SMTP to _send_ messages, though, so splitting those functions is not optimal. (Sidenote: I'm not doing this because I like it, but because I have changed ISPs and can no longer submit messages myself though their MX. If I setup a new system, I use IMAP only, from the MUA.) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...