From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Apr 4 9: 5:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.thenap.com (mailman.thenap.com [209.190.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035C737B71D for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:05:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drew.weaver@thenap.com) Received: by mailman.thenap.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:19:03 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Drew J. Weaver" To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:19:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD22.F63C5C24" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD22.F63C5C24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just an off topic note here, FreeBSD, BSDi/OS and RedHat are all of equal "difficulty" to administer, I run all 3 and none of them make me shiver in my boots. Not sure what point you're attempting to make here? --- quoth the raven, --- Everybody should start with a *nix running on a publicly accessable box. (Note: Linux doesn't count here, except possibly really old versions of Slackware. Damned RH makes things too easy. No X either - CLI, people!) ________________________________________________________________________ Chet Hosey ________________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Bill Vermillion wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 05:45:48PM +1000, Enno Davids thus spoke: > > > | > Is there any way to trace who is doing it? | > Running tcpdump > > with certain filter settings to avoid logging everything and > > filling the disk? > > > > | Dont bother... Just install the fixed version of bind... > > | Every kid with a script and an internet connection is probably > > | doing this to you!!! > > > This response kind of bothers me. There was a time > > when everytime I could sanely trace spammers I emailed > > abuse@wherever.was.relevant to advise them. Similarly, when people > > probed Apache I'd send off adivsory emails. > > If you find a way this works let me know. I've given up doing this > because except for the most well known, I've received rejects from > all mail addresses at the offending provider, root,abuse, > postmaster, webmaster, etc. So I just gave up and put the in > the REJECT list. > > Those days responsible people, and not quick buck artists, we're > keeping the 'net running. > > > There was a time when if you probed the Apache on my machine it > > winnuke'd you back. Moral issues aside, there _was_ a great deal > > of satisfaction there... Needless to say, there's little mileage > > in this now (damned M$ service packs!). :) > > I never was into 'revenge' or 'tit-for-tat'. > > Bill > -- > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD22.F63C5C24 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing)

        Just an = off topic note here, FreeBSD, BSDi/OS and RedHat are all of equal = "difficulty" to administer, I run all 3 and none of them make = me shiver in my boots. Not sure what point you're attempting to make = here?

--- quoth the raven, ---

Everybody should start with a *nix running on a = publicly accessable box.
(Note: Linux doesn't count here, except possibly = really old versions of
Slackware. Damned RH makes things too easy. No X = either - CLI, people!)

_______________________________________________________________= _________

Chet Hosey
<chosey@nidhog.com>
_______________________________________________________________= _________

On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Bill Vermillion wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 05:45:48PM +1000, Enno = Davids thus spoke:
>
> > | > Is there any way to trace who is = doing it? | > Running tcpdump
> > with certain filter settings to avoid = logging everything and
> > filling the disk?
>
>
> > | Dont bother... Just install the fixed = version of bind...
> > | Every kid with a script and an internet = connection is probably
> > | doing this to you!!!
>
> > This response kind of bothers me. There = was a time
> > when everytime I could sanely trace = spammers I emailed
> > abuse@wherever.was.relevant to advise = them. Similarly, when people
> > probed Apache I'd send off adivsory = emails.
>
> If you find a way this works let me know.  = I've given up doing this
> because except for the most well known, I've = received rejects from
> all mail addresses at the offending provider, = root,abuse,
> postmaster, webmaster, etc.  So I just = gave up and put the in
> the REJECT list.
>
> Those days responsible people, and not quick = buck artists, we're
> keeping the 'net running.
>
> > There was a time when if you probed the = Apache on my machine it
> > winnuke'd you back. Moral issues aside, = there _was_ a great deal
> > of satisfaction there... Needless to say, = there's little mileage
> > in this now (damned M$ service packs!). = :)
>
> I never was into 'revenge' or = 'tit-for-tat'.
>
> Bill
> --
> Bill Vermillion -   bv @ wjv . = com
>
> To Unsubscribe: send mail to = majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the = body of the message
>


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