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Date:      Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:39:46 +0900
From:      Taku YAMAMOTO <taku@tackymt.homeip.net>
To:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        mav@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, stas@freebsd.org, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, zbeeble@gmail.com
Subject:   Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements
Message-ID:  <20081017013946.3534221e.taku@tackymt.homeip.net>
In-Reply-To: <20081016.092844.-1548243521.imp@bsdimp.com>
References:  <48F7121A.2010307@FreeBSD.org> <20081016.081628.43009259.imp@bsdimp.com> <48F75773.7030100@FreeBSD.org> <20081016.092844.-1548243521.imp@bsdimp.com>

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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:28:44 -0600 (MDT)
"M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

> In message: <48F75773.7030100@FreeBSD.org>
>             Alexander Motin <mav@FreeBSD.org> writes:
> : No, it's opposite. With lower frequency I have proportionally smaller
> : delays (more loop iterations). I don't remember exact numbers now, but
> : general tendency was like: with 2400MHz - 10 iterations, with 1200MHz -
> : 20 iterations and with 100MHz - 240 iterations. But neither syslog, nor
> : my eyes saw any visible delay there.
> 
> You have more iterations.  I'd have expected less.  This doesn't say
> anything at all about DELAY, per se.  If you are waiting for 1M cycles
> at 100MHz, it is only .01s, while at 10MHz it is .1s.  Delay is
> implemented by reading a counter in the 8254 that's been calibrated.
> So unless the clock that's clocking it is running FASTER, delay won't
> be the source of additional iterations.
> 
> Hmmm, looking at the i386 delay code, it looks like it depends on
> tsc_frequency being right when tsc isn't broken.  If that's set
> bogusly, that could cause DELAY to be slower...

I have a Core 2 Duo whose TSC ticks regardless of how EST is set.
In conjunction of tsc_freq_changed() function defined in tsc.c,
tsc_freq becomes lower than actual, thus shorter DELAY().

Maybe his machine has the same.


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