From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 27 03:46:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E1037B401; Tue, 27 May 2003 03:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F7243F85; Tue, 27 May 2003 03:46:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from fishballoon.org ([81.104.195.199]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030527104559.RZVU2283.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@fishballoon.org>; Tue, 27 May 2003 11:45:59 +0100 Received: from tuatara.fishballoon.org (tuatara [192.168.1.6]) by fishballoon.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4RAjH4o086919; Tue, 27 May 2003 11:45:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott@tuatara.fishballoon.org) Received: (from scott@localhost) by tuatara.fishballoon.org (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h4RAjGAb011233; Tue, 27 May 2003 11:45:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 11:45:16 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20030527104516.GA10444@tuatara.fishballoon.org> References: <000601c321fc$5dbe1780$0700a8c0@iskon.local> <20030526040027.GN15770@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030526.141722.39156584.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030526.141722.39156584.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE i386 cc: grog@freebsd.org cc: dmarion@iskon.hr cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OLDCARD fails with CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:46:02 -0000 On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:17:22PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20030526040027.GN15770@wantadilla.lemis.com> > "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: > : Is there a good reason why you're still using OLDCARD? It's liable to > : go away altogether soon. > > A long time ago, I made a commitment to keep the OLDCARD stuff alive > through the end of 5.x, but that it would disappear in 6.0. I plan on > keeping to that commitment, despite the hawk's desire to kill it now. > > Warner Various PCMCIA-ISA bridges aren't supported by NEWCARD yet (for instance, the one in my Thinkpad 380), so some of us are stuck with OLDCARD until that is sorted out. By the way, Warner, I'm always happy to test/help debug anything you've got that might get my TP380 working with NEWCARD. It uses some Cirrus Logic chip (don't have the exact number to hand right now). I haven't updated that machine in a while, but NEWCARD couldn't find anything to talk to a month or so ago, the last time I tried it. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon