From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Wed Jul 4 14:27:48 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7686D103C08E for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0615B7F244 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id BDB59103C08D; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C93103C08B for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-io0-x236.google.com (mail-io0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9E3F7F237 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-io0-x236.google.com with SMTP id l7-v6so5049475ioj.1 for ; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=sK1U1WcI/mYOwuatsGxs9j5IBsW7C2KJkpolQWytMWs=; b=LNd+OaOQCGupjy05nHDVc5tTKlPfswN5lcmevtmLBgHGQPmYlWDrcq2nZlvsg9VMFw vHG0eQCWu3/G9MquL3srV/0thlOf1Q/6kwZB7RiP4n+dgJIq4E/xjFUIf/8F0dUD3fxT pNXkwZGzhXgDgxNxMq7PPK0vcjxtQqO/XtOD0Gl4xOOX89kmN+5topHJZRDTkoEuYxTh qenRlAAMzehYUnBu+Jv1dUzy+2qXz0U+kL57i9KQG+EyNnTRV3Rm/XCv/7jHOQbCPFE3 1QNARhWcZhqH3dcIZj7TLLbbexW4AyWP3+lvOluNnrYEf+Nip3cDHMUgkHvvYldigOY6 Yjww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=sK1U1WcI/mYOwuatsGxs9j5IBsW7C2KJkpolQWytMWs=; b=EmsC+xG/xEuB9rMmWynQvfXY0DRtRJ3h4LWKX4kgOZ0eJCeEKtu02QL+LZO9s0YXXd QFSlKjoLwUQQRKMNB2pNMXEKANruHftpGBK4wgkw3D163wEpxi64fEBet4m9+U70UKjS rdlgn7zDGRfvRPApoERbvzDX6S/jHef0r+KzeDeetp/kM94wsuECQJvm+ueqS+pG0f6b dKbdKb8lXSP15ooGkIdp57yV8vbEAArKM0gPo5sdOIu9T7UlPjmZhQUF3wnCHsDgAVDT 5qTuUX/dAUG4EGpAtkGiyTqIn8fPQ8OmSy1IUPFFozBPUOhh2D5Mh6YoPIaaWQFHDWiG 131g== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1wV5Dxd4uwFCU8Q1sH9jzDEjHiMvrpeUEYoarP6sOLrOiWpaqQ NrgNFwqKDW2GPDrSF5kQ2j2vpnl0nuKxxKbDUeBMhg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpe7OEDvqwmxL+mdkU0mphUF7FXTn+CwqhuZ3nAN8ZWIQ/bj9vqnGMsTAqJYoWwXXOjfUHgFMjJqwPDqvNoU5Ow= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:280a:: with SMTP id o10-v6mr1769284ioo.168.1530714465075; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 07:27:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 2002:a4f:1183:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 07:27:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [74.62.67.99] In-Reply-To: <201807041425.w64EP2sg043237@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <95857.1530687122@critter.freebsd.dk> <201807041425.w64EP2sg043237@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 08:27:44 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4Xo1ZAP9FkxNSgFatmT-uPP38wM Message-ID: Subject: Re: xstr, mkstr To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Bryan Drewery , Eitan Adler , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 14:27:48 -0000 On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > But, as I said early, lets just shelf all this "lets remove this or > that cause of foo" until package base is done, and then a group of > people should create a documented critiria list of what should or > should not be in the base system, and do a tree wide sweep rather > than have 100+ threads over the next 5 years about this or that. > It does tie into the deprecation stuff too. xstr, at least, needs major work to support modern C dialects. It's not just old, it's also broken. A quick stroll through the code shows this. It should go because it's not worth taking with us to pkg base. Warner