From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Fri Dec 15 04:58:43 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4991FE9AD64 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 04:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x236.google.com (mail-it0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1051867395 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2017 04:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x236.google.com with SMTP id p139so16763023itb.1 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 20:58:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=lJGUCagQIUtANzqDz0vKuBRVY7urKBOyqLwNjsqVxmY=; b=0SP+zr5VJGyK48zRRtq7R5OkrLczfUw4qP7znVjgM1S0hrVan68xSNS7YjoRH6nG8W nPCGCWfdxw0f47ns7qJwtxLCz72ixkxUlrIyxRGQZh7cTtBtfv+dAUCUs8b8pSnoOt4T X7LFKdIT8EapktI0OHZnXZbMrMh3Kh1TQRODNrr8hLVXiO0vTC/q+Paz6/vPGMORQL81 PXoo/6Ck59BQOQiFBiDrrN7Q/6UQms9dLTQ9MliBfwOaxtlyImIIOYGqa0Ju8cONnW7H ykVXtiaHKldgdBrw1Ej5yW6qHh+4d4PRNpv0jXHYgUihsmy3r5CQyd8VLZ6CAFsM/40U ycjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lJGUCagQIUtANzqDz0vKuBRVY7urKBOyqLwNjsqVxmY=; b=K7n2kYjPHLtq0iZrwr/rmW2zGTcLJrjrOLdq6DP9bE9QSebgNeUI1cHxYEnXgY8nR6 W3qtO6SyraZMMg33mQF6am9d/7+KX/qwX1LEvX5AEMjHkoPJPMJmMawWp1JTJkaY0oFJ pFtBNKGd+w14JEMhoYWaMOCGleMkIAlCzQMYv4EbqAMfEt3UnSDZ8ynLVqulRUZ8lYNd e9cqsFZrsdEtrabLIHyGYWy+dOzUC6QotRL5iboxVmRZISuuBGf0ktKxe2Q5jw33pyzL FJqaU2Nr0cv6trSr7KTSVlBGsObD+iDOOTcgfTBi4OrgPcXRBnfUam1iVIgxLrbuJx9s +LiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mIN58M/bEGJ9j7ipmRW9rZDZRRPm2fGLdxA1uw8k4ncnMYkkpag R2VqVbWqjJbYKevY9fiUvWOYpBh8XvxuMznEEfH3Yg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBosBhGMCP29uCiJg2gOtBhfj7ZR03oBGcl6rSZ3kIYUHsUF/NWH3t62y200MXobx+Fjb53n7EedegWbZXIlb3YA= X-Received: by 10.36.147.193 with SMTP id y184mr6184184itd.64.1513313922144; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 20:58:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.108.204 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Dec 2017 20:58:41 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: References: From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 21:58:41 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4N3rDcnpPXRA4yE0KDbDnevvO9I Message-ID: Subject: Re: Objections to converting bsd-family-tree to a dot file To: Eitan Adler Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , Kernel@dragonflybsd.org, tech-misc@netbsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 04:58:43 -0000 On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Eitan Adler wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been attempting to maintain bsd-family-tree (available as > share/misc/bsd-family-tree) as a plain text file across 3 different > operating systems: NetBSD, DragonFly, and FreeBSD. > > It has to be maintained by hand, and can't be parsed to do anything > more useful (like turn it into an image). In addition, formatting > differences between the different projects have led to minor > differenes that are difficult to merge. > > I'd like to turn this into into a dot file > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOT_(graph_description_language)) which > is a more natural format for a graph. > > Any objections? It isn't used for much beyond documentation so > changing the format isn't expected to cause any negative effects. > Show Me The Money! That is, show me how it will be rendered in the new format and we can talk. A dot format would definitely be useful in addition to what we have now (which includes release dates with useful sources). My concern is that it will render a useless hodgepodge that obscures the main narrative. Warner