From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 5 7:50: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from energyhq.homeip.net (213-97-200-73.uc.nombres.ttd.es [213.97.200.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703A037B416 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by energyhq.homeip.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BAD213FC51; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:49:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:49:57 +0100 From: Miguel Mendez To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Cliff Sarginson , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~juha/ Message-ID: <20020305164957.A91495@energyhq.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Cliff Sarginson , chat@freebsd.org References: <000c01c1c322$df0f22a0$0101a8c0@noc2> <20020304202541.U91555-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <20020305015104.GA40292@core.usrlib.org> <20020305114625.GA11426@raggedclown.net> <20020305144726.B89475@energyhq.homeip.net> <20020305154017.GB17913@genius.tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020305154017.GB17913@genius.tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 03:40:17PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 03:40:17PM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > Cracker is nothing, just a stupid term made up by journalists and > > clueless people like Suckomu Shimomura. ;-P >=20 > A cracker is someone who breaks software security (usually on games). Yeah, that's right. But in the unix world it doesn't really make sense. Yes, Fravia's pages contain one or two essays where some unix is involved (I remember FlexLM reverse engineering on HP-UX) but other than that and a very minimal Linux cracking activity, I haven't seen many cracking on unix systems. As someone pointed out, in this particular case (attacking a freebsd.org box), should be defined as the action of a script kiddiot. Calling him/her a hacker would be offensive to real hackers :-)=20 Cheers, --=20 Miguel Mendez - flynn@energyhq.homeip.net GPG Public Key :: http://energyhq.homeip.net/files/pubkey.txt EnergyHQ :: http://www.energyhq.tk FreeBSD - The power to serve! --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8hOklnLctrNyFFPERAtfoAJ4wmiwCgeMF5QGb9E+BcWJfaC7/MQCgg0EJ c3m/7SEuRnRD2xNqzA6m56E= =khi8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message