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Date:      Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:07:40 +0200 (CEST)
From:      N <niels@bakker.net>
To:        Evren Yurtesen <yurtesen@ispro.net.tr>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: multiple machines in the same network
Message-ID:  <9908211658400.22597-100000@liquid.tpb.net>
In-Reply-To: <37BDA7A6.D999F103@ispro.net.tr>

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> We are an ISP and we want to let our customers to put their own hardware
> into our network. But the thing we are concerned about is security of 
> course. How can we protect our system from customers' machines?

Buy another Ethernet port for the router that connects to the leased line
to your upstream, hang a subnet off it and only attach customers there.
Don't let them or their machines come anywhere near yours.  Be especially
wary of routing protocols.  Build access lists with a vengeance.

Separate rooms are preferred.  UUnet do it nicely: at MAE-East (the only
place I have experience with this) you get a swipe card that gets you into
the building, plus another card that gets you into the colo room.  All 19"
racks are locked (well, most of them :), you can't reach the next one from
inside its neighbour as well.  You get one key, another is kept locked
away by UUnet personnel in case you want them to do `remote-hands' service
on your hardware (i.e. powercycle it) or a telco has to connect new
infrastructure etc.

The disadvantage of it is that it eats space and costs increase due to
the additional physical esecurity requirements.  You will have to decide
whether that'll be worth it over only allowing supervised access to
co-located machines.  FWIW, we do the latter, with 24h remote-hands
service for customers who want that (and want to pay for it :).

HTH,


	-- Niels.



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