From owner-freebsd-chat Mon May 18 17:19:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19157 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enteract.com (dannyman@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19032 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:19:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyman@enteract.com) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by enteract.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00374; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:19:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980518191905.B28301@enteract.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 19:19:05 -0500 From: dannyman To: Atipa , "Jan B. Koum " Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why we should support Microsoft... Mail-Followup-To: Atipa , "Jan B. Koum " , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Atipa on Mon, May 18, 1998 at 03:02:56PM -0600 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 18, 1998 at 03:02:56PM -0600, Atipa wrote: > > This is not about Bill Gates having too much > > money. This is about monopoly. Go read some history with the following > > keywords: Standard Oil, AT&T. > > Those are commodities that influence the basic needs of people (heat, > elctricity, telephones), and not what OS they use to play Quake. If we > open the door to this kind of government support, expect a clipper chip > inside your phone very shortly. _My_ livelihood depends more on affordable Internet access and decent software than on oil and telephones. I don't even live in California. If you can do without consumer choice re: my computer, I can deal without consumer choice re: the grade and price of fuel you pump into your car. > > Monopoly is bad for economy. Monopoly does not help the economy. > > Monopoly should be stopped. > > But what makes this a monopoly? We all have the ability to choose > products, and noone is taking that away. I personally will not be using > Windows98, and I personally would like to see MS get smart. However, I > disagree with this approach. A monopoly holds 80% or more of a market, legally. Microsoft is a Monopoly, and given its size and capability/potential for abuse, warrants greater scrutiny than its puny competitors, like Netscape, Sun, or FreeBSD. You don't see Apache scheming to try and redefine the "look and feel" of your desktop environment, eh? > As I stated in other e-mails, we are missing the big picture. We need to > focus on promoting emerging technologies, instead of stunting existing > ones. Then we can all be winners. They should be investigating MS's > poisoning of Java instead of their integrated browser. Exactly. It is very possible that Microsoft focuses on stunting emerging, potentially threatening technologies, and I want my government to look into that and lay the smack down, if need be. imho, this thread is entirely irrelevant even to -chat ... -dan -- // dannyman yori aiokomete || Our Honored Symbol deserves \\/ http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ || an Honorable Retirement (UIUC) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message