From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 6 21:15:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D969716A403 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 21:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940CE13C45B for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 21:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id A598A2091; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 23:15:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on tim.des.no Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AA02090; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 23:15:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 61EB2A10A5; Fri, 6 Apr 2007 23:15:21 +0200 (CEST) From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) To: "Nikolas Britton" References: <20070405.140109.39240822.imp@bsdimp.com> <20070406142326.GC6950@hoeg.nl> <20070406153500.GE6950@hoeg.nl> <46166A5E.3090009@samsco.org> <461697C3.8000700@elischer.org> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:15:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Nikolas Britton's message of "Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:23:14 -0500") Message-ID: <86ps6h8as6.fsf@dwp.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Current , Julian Elischer , Ed Schouten Subject: Re: Do we need this junk? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:15:28 -0000 "Nikolas Britton" writes: > Julian Elischer writes: > > We have a LOT of old systems running around the world. > But the old systems don't need the latest and greatest copy of > FreeBSD! This is why we provide errata / security fixes. The systems > are a static non moving target ??? Excuse me? Who's "we"? Julian, Warner, Scott, Bernd, Giorgios, Wilko, myself and many others who have contradicted you in this discussion are veteran FreeBSD developers with something like a hundred years of industry experience between us. You, on the other hand are just a pathetic little fuck who has repeatedly demonstrated his complete lack of understanding of anything remotely approaching real computers, real software and real life. You do not get to tell us how to run our project. You do not get to say "we". DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no