From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 19 20:45:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870CE37B8B2 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 20:45:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (user-2ive6e6.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.25.198]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA03334; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 23:45:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D5AC0E.D2906589@confusion.net> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 23:41:50 -0500 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Clifton Royston Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small spaces References: <38D43E0E.1DDECC10@confusion.net> <20000318215028.C15998@lava.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What's worked for me now is: No X or games, no ports tree, only kernel source. Right now I don't have a network because we were using dialups, but at last DSL is here, so I'll compile my kernel locally, and then once I have everything set, i'll delete the sources and nfs mount them, and i'll install the ports tree (could those be mounted too? or will that cause issues?). Alternatively, I could just add a big hd to this and have the other machines NFS mount off this (but the other machines are so much faster...). Perhaps i'll find some money (yea right, I need to go to school [but I need a summer internship, if you're readin:)]) and build a system around the PPro I just grabbed on eBay...ah to dream. Let's get Bell Atlantic here with DSL first though. Thanks everyone for your help Grateful as ever, and always learning something new, Laurence PS: If I do enough crunchgen(1)ing, how small can bin and sbin get? Clifton Royston wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 09:40:14PM -0500, Laurence Berland wrote: > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.4 on an old 486 I've got lying around to > > use as a NATing firewall for my home network, but I've only got a 200 > > Meg HD around. I'm gonna go get another HD later, but right now I'd > > like to get running with just that. So far I've been trying with 16 to > > swap and various other combinations, but it always seems to run out of > > /usr space. I figure / should be at least 32MB, and the rest (~152MB) > > goes to /usr. I'm trying to install the binaries, the docs, and the > > kernel source (but not the rest of the source). Any idea if it's even > > possible? Should I shrink down the root partition more? > > 32 is pretty minimal, I think; / will use nearly all of that. You > should try to see if you can trim what's in /usr a bit. Have you made > sure to ditch the games, as well as X? If you skip your kernel source > and do your compiles on another box (which I think you'd want to do > anyway!) you could ditch the kernel source, and then all the essential > binaries should be sure to fit into the remaining space of /usr. > > It should be doable; I had a very similar config (486-120, 16MB RAM, > 240MB HD) running just a few months ago on OpenBSD 2.5, which is pretty > similar in size of essential binaries & data space. Similar > application, too - home network firewall, in my case with IP filtering > for a DSL connection. (After a bit it got to be too much of a pain, so > last month I bought the smallest new hard drive I could find; this > turned out to be about 4GB, and space is no longer an issue.) > > -- Clifton > > -- > Clifton Royston -- LavaNet Systems Architect -- cliftonr@lava.net > The named which can be named is not the Eternal named. -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate (In NYC) <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 2000 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message