From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 19 20:06:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimedia@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8401416A402 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (gate.funkthat.com [69.17.45.168]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5579D43D6A for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:06:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (g8jzhpebelbwqir8@localhost.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k3JK68gk086023; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:06:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id k3JK67oU086022; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:06:07 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <20060419200607.GM38619@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Julian Elischer , Alexander Leidinger , Ian Smith , multimedia@freebsd.org References: <20060419110126.4iz4bj0x5wo4wwgk@netchild.homeip.net> <20060419155819.GK38619@funkthat.com> <44467C06.2020406@elischer.org> <20060419202100.0987a5dc@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <444684E8.2010907@elischer.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <444684E8.2010907@elischer.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p6 i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html Cc: Alexander Leidinger , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: drop snd_ from DRIVER_MODULEs... X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:06:21 -0000 Julian Elischer wrote this message on Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:43 -0700: > Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > >Am Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:05:58 -0700 > >schrieb Julian Elischer : > > > >>John-Mark Gurney wrote: > >> > >>>Ian Smith wrote this message on Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 00:44 +1000: > >>> > >>>>paqi# ll /boot/kernel | grep snd_ > >>>>-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16428 Feb 25 06:28 snd_ad1816.ko > >>>> > >[...] > > > >>>>-r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 18760 Feb 25 06:28 snd_vibes.ko > >>>> > >>I prefer that they keep the names and interfaces that miss the if_ > >>prefix should probably grow them. > > > >Are you referring to the file names (which will not change with this > >patch), or to the "internal ID" of the module (which changes)? > > I prefer that the file names have the prefix and that the file names > match the module names as much as possible. And just because you seem to be late in the conversation, I do not plan on changing the file names, they are fine the way they are.. but if we do keep them the same, then we need to change how modules are named... because for the most part, modules are named by bus/device... If you really think that the module names should grow the prefix, then we should change the module names to not include the bus attachment: 32 pci/atapci 37 pci/em 38 fwohci/firewire 39 pci/fwohci 41 firewire/fwe 50 miibus/e1000phy 71 pcib/pci 72 pci/pcib 169 nexus/legacy 172 legacy/mptable_pcib 174 root/nexus 187 legacy/pcib acpi.ko: 3 nexus/acpi 6 pcib/acpi_pci 7 acpi/acpi_pcib The acpi_pci and acpi_pcib attachments are a bit special as they use classes to modify the underlying pci and pcib behavior.. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."