From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 12 20:28:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A92106564A for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f54.google.com (mail-pw0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A928FC08 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbcxa7 with SMTP id xa7so3496162pbc.13 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:28:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=76sbyO2kOlDqiJp0B0S3W8z0oXQuAXVjjr7guTOcgDM=; b=tqz//EfjmGsxhKHL0tmaRKjl+/+hXBM/+bZz79khLxpla9W5NcmkVuyNu/Ze8gqLjL nPxCnUOOPbUoxfy23SHs/TkyC88AdL4h+HF/7PTegKA5T6egW0YsmfhITZxCG6jHTZJV z1kpvWmKb++6PJC/o23GbHFGw/vVvsqta3QCU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.238.168 with SMTP id vl8mr12151414pbc.67.1329078524194; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.31.138 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:28:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F34FA17.7080000@quip.cz> <20120210133629.Horde.uDX6B5jmRSRPNQ9NDdkRUI4@webmail.leidinger.net> <201202102037.30996.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> <20120211080731.GD85504@goofy01.vnodelab.local> <3A8C8AA5-94A7-44C2-81BD-F348DAC4521A@mac.com> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:28:44 -0300 Message-ID: From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: Chris Rees Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Enhancing the user experience with tcsh X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:28:45 -0000 On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > > On 12 Feb 2012 17:11, "Chuck Swiger" wrote: >> >> On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:05 PM, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> > Joel, with all due respect, do you really think that 99.9% of all >> > users will not find the _non_intrusive_ additions below useful? >> > >> > bindkey "\e[1~" beginning-of-line #make Home key work; >> > bindkey "\e[2~" overwrite-mode #make Ins key work; >> > bindkey "\e[3~" delete-char #make Delete key work; >> > bindkey "\e[4~" end-of-line #make End key work; >> >> Yes, I do not find the additions mentioned right here useful. >> >> Much of the time, I'm using a laptop which does not have dedicated >> Home/INS/Delete/End keys. =A0And even when I am using a full 10x-key key= board, >> I would not use them since I prefer using editmode=3Demacs and Cntl-A / = E. > > So do I, but would these hurt you? > > I think it's insane that by default the standard keys don't work. > > Chris That=B4s exactly my point! I use vim mode, yet, those keys do exist and they don=B4t work by default! Even if you don=B4t use them those keys should be fully functional by defau= lt.