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dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of nakaji@kankyo-u.ac.jp has no SPF policy when checking 202.216.78.12) smtp.mailfrom=nakaji@kankyo-u.ac.jp X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.90 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[202.216.78.12:from]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[202.216.78.12:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[imsd-p01.kankyo-u.ac.jp]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kankyo-u.ac.jp]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:10010, ipnet:202.216.78.0/24, country:JP]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-users-jp] Subject: [FreeBSD-users-jp 96781] Re: freebsd-update -r 13.0-RELEASE upgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-users-jp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion relevant to FreeBSD communities in Japan List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 01:11:46 -0000 中治です。 話が盛り上がっていいぞいいぞ。というのはサテオキ、 OSの更新時、共有ライブラリのバージョンなどは考慮されていてpkgやportsなも のを再インストールするよう、/usr/{src,ports}/UPDATING に明示されています が、頻繁に発生するトラブルではないのか、bootcodeやloader、ファイルシステ ムの互換性のことは、見逃されやすいのかもしれませんね。 私はまんまと見逃して、不注意に起動しないデスクトップサーバを作ってしまい ましたが、さて、freebsd-updateさんにどこまで期待をかけられるのか、という 見どころができたのは楽しみが増えてよかったと思います。 On 2021/04/16 8:36, Hiroo Ono wrote: > > ということで、話を発展させたつもりでしたがわかりにくくてすみませんでした。 元々の話が情報不足でもあり、失礼しました。(^^;; -- 公立鳥取環境大学 環境学部環境学科 NAKAJI Hiroyuki (中治 弘行) 〒689-1111 鳥取市若葉台北一丁目1番1号 Tel/Fax: 0857-38-6773