From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 28 13:29:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEC7322; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from mx0.gid.co.uk (mx0.gid.co.uk [194.32.164.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D47C2EF1; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [194.32.164.26] (80-46-130-69.static.dsl.as9105.com [80.46.130.69]) by mx0.gid.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r9SDEpVE019742; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:14:51 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Subject: Re: [heads up] axing AppleTalk and IPX/SPX Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Bishop In-Reply-To: <20131028124221.GO52889@glebius.int.ru> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:14:46 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20131028124221.GO52889@glebius.int.ru> To: Gleb Smirnoff X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Cc: stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:29:23 -0000 Hi, On 28 Oct 2013, at 12:42, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Hello! >=20 > [Cc to stable@, for wider audience] >=20 > The plan is two axe two old networking protocols from FreeBSD head/, > meaning that FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE, available in couple of years would > be shipped without them. >=20 > 1) AppleTalk >=20 > Last time claimed to be supported by vendor in 2007[1]. In practice > had very little use since 90th. > Discontinued by major routing equipment vendors since 2009[2]. More pertinantly, netatalk dropped AppleTalk support with v3.0 in = 2012[a]. [a] http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/3.0/ReleaseNotes-3.0-alpha1.html > 2) IPX >=20 > Last time claimed to be supported by vendor in 2007[3]. In practice > had very little use since 90th. > Discontinued by major routing equipment vendors since 2011[4]. >=20 > Current status of these protocols in FreeBSD is "compilable". For the > next couple of years, we plan a lot of changes in networking stack, > many of which will require changing the protocols, as well. Keeping > them in compilable state would require additional manpower, but it > is very probable, that after all the changes they will be utterly > broken, albeit compilable. >=20 > P.S. I account any objector as taker of maintainership :) >=20 > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.5 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.6 > [2] = http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps8802/ps5460/product_= bulletin_c25-520459.html > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Enterprise_Server#OES-NetWare > [4] = http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/novipx/configuration/guide/Novell_IPX_= Discontinuation.html >=20 > --=20 > Totus tuus, Glebius. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118 940 1243 rb@gid.co.uk fax +44 (0)118 940 1295 mobile +44 (0)783 626 4518