From owner-freebsd-chat Tue May 21 4:30:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9DE37B40B for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 04:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id g4LBUQp13055 ; Tue, 21 May 2002 13:30:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id NAA87269 ; Tue, 21 May 2002 13:30:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 13:30:26 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Brad Knowles Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha clock.c Message-ID: <20020521133026.L71209@lpt.ens.fr> References: <200205162121.g4GLLGQ43405@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020516220511.A9DBE380A@overcee.wemm.org> <20020517114010.A57127@regency.nsu.ru> <20020519100324.GK44562@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <20020519134348.I67779@blossom.cjclark.org> <20020520195703.A79046@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020521103710.C71209@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from brad.knowles@skynet.be on Tue, May 21, 2002 at 11:19:11AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brad Knowles said on May 21, 2002 at 11:19:11: > > Even in France, there is an attempt to get people to use > > "mel" (for "message electronique") or "courriel" (for "courrier > > electronique") but most people use the English-sounding "email". > > What does La Academie Française have to say about this? I'm sure > that they could invent some French-sounding word that would have the > official power of law, and could bully most people in the country > into complying. I think the officially recommended word is "mél" (it's what the Hachette dictionary urges), but in fact practically nobody uses it, probably because it sounds stupid (they themselves think so). I have noticed some people using "courriel" but that's not because of any official diktat. > This is why I say that the French language is the > only dead language still in common use today -- because languages > that are alive will mutate and grow in a natural manner, unlike > French. You'll be surprised at the number of foreign words in common use in French. From English, there's "weekend", "stop" (in road signs), "ok", and other examples I can't recall offhand; and among technical terms, "CD" (in French it should have been "DC" but isn't -- with "DVD" there's no problem), internet, web, login, etc. There are also coinages you won't find in English, like "footing" (soccer), "fooding" (roughly, the art of eating) and so on. Admittedly the French often do mutilate foreign words when they import them, but that's the people, not the academie. I've noticed French people who can pronounce "Hubbard" quite nicely when speaking English, will say something like "oobaarh" when speaking French. Also unsanctioned by l'Academie Française is an incomprehensible street lingo called "verlan" which inverts words, like "turvoi" for "voiture" and "teibou" for "bouteille" ("verlan" is itself "l'invers" inverted). - Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message