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Date:      Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:44:39 +0200
From:      Damien Fleuriot <ml@my.gd>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of?]
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On 6/6/12 9:55 PM, Robert Simmons wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:49:53 -0400
>> Daniel Staal articulated:
>>
>>> On 2012-06-05 17:20, Jerry wrote:
>>>
>>>> The question that I have not seen answered in this thread is what
>>>> FreeBSD intents to do. From what I have seen, most FreeBSD users do
>>>> not
>>>> use the latest versions of most hardware, so it may be a while before
>>>> its user base is even effected.
>>>
>>> I don't believe at this point FreeBSD has any intent one way or
>>> another, really.  It's not an immediate problem for any platform
>>> supported by the FreeBSD project, at least for a technically-inclined
>>> user who's willing to check out their BIOS.  (Even if they are using
>>> the latest hardware, the x86-derived platforms aren't going to require
>>> this code signing yet.)  So it'll probably be a 'wait and see if it's
>>> something the FreeBSD community needs a solution for' at this point.
>>> But this is just my impression.
>>
>> I totally agree with you. Unfortunately that speaks to the sad state of
>> affairs that FreeBSD appears to be in. When it comes to supporting the
>> latest technologies, it tends to be behind the curve when compared to
>> other operating systems. Wireless networking and USB support are only a
>> few examples.
>>
>> I don't know of any user personally who purchased a new PC and then
>> threw FreeBSD on it. Most users that I have come into contact with use
>> 2+ year old units that have been replaced by shiny new Windows units. I
>> don't see that changing anytime soon.
> 
> I would have to disagree with you there.  I know of quite a few users
> who happen to run one of the world's largest content distribution
> networks (accounting for about one third of the internet's traffic; up
> there with pornography).  They purchased more than just a handful of
> new computers and threw FreeBSD on them:
> 
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2012-June/068129.html


You're talking about servers here, I think Jerry was speaking more
generally, about a lambda user buying a computer and *definitely* not
installing FBSD (or anything else) on it.

The typical users just wants to buy "internet and emails" without a care
in the world about the OS.




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