From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 12 16:44:10 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA48F33F25E for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic306-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic306-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.176.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49k64p0Js1z3VZD for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:44:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: ribnnxIVM1k74UAVuWWds0hBWpPypmMhQ0lARyUN6ByMMZMAGMYind.6WMk1xKF fpENVNssYbjBscyTV3jzPR4FyKoLiOwPRA_7eFeO00tghO3P1y3g1HgvjPxw8YGWTGtwnWT9twgT HOMfxP98WMUz4Pfn9.LnZkE0YGDR0aXTBNCpSZoV1ULa1.9jplA6rc3tqYHKHwQYw2m3EMiVpeat xcpEhKDiurGwELpY9eNGNSTBdE35YmQ8dMFqSozAGN59dU8VpoVgZSPyHXdegyOBW4keDm8nvhDw R7.O84YiTArQ.fz_QfEGmxAWAjdr._Ukp4tMpU263aS.kV5KQ.8piRKE2viRXMsSplvBW5cQ5sNj ifniuuv5Usn9xQJqbzVY_Bi7gN62bedy04hlDZRIY.b.TqWHmkFmZIvqmvC2sy4iDVa_c3vGgzGR AjWzOxZfMr.PLEHCq_H0xAVaKUULvBOmGhRbs6vGrjgJsTIXKexQdtydrZkS.EunyuWRRz53WkVh ctM7ZsT4XzwSKKuYz0TICjXFKP1T2Vq7Yt4RHE1WRsYKK_wqOYHVJZonL5Y4jGv21.K5XK1F4_ir sPjQsxgkNUzwZcqWvULHiqEHak7z..2y3uCKbrpwVNkPRyFoA_JTZTj.OfZZS5UnXlHHLhu8Mxek 2Y86.o3sWu2l7tlsCHQDDPXRHmBXtpvPGqSrBTYaICONGQjIQuCc3405XEbKGrsw5tjOXIJqRzrl BW4SVcxQt2SxfBhlOA_cWduUcqb2i8hsUglcydmQt8_Jhve4RVcRaV7zWhGrWSlBsPDGDodwY.n9 xkd2EuDJf8WgUTuDakobU87c05w44SQ4WD8J3TVjZxRRMqcl504RFFTECfcoubtLjHWIN2yFyY4m jo3yrMoGgfMA6PTcLgX0EO49iR7BMAo61ruG3cBUmAyGMmKbSUZGoIRh3QdMn9MipGoc6oNWSqDq Qxoam12z0umUSaBKThXz8CrpxRCwuMvtiQ1xxXFjL9qfv5PIotEzCSerGGVQvltVbIZjfG48E5o9 mM_DemgMYY1EIAdTtpQzJSqsuilVcx206r88jGlSYOvBHbdYJrI9K4b4nKX9Apk9RMFI9993KvJc Rgk4sxo8XNs9H1M.TMv5WbYScDxSQmlgohv67hVKpkmjOhf9fnVQWiG.lNByhaXsKGMUtGKpRFJI F1A8HVtQaxAmK0CH2HbWgwP0rU13PjLwf04n6Zvt3zfUW_qIVC4CxKrYNSnGRg8WEtRK.NHH61Z. QyeCsz4PY44mVLKXGh294yQSLURfWMoGWhyUJJYo9idIE3p0hV3FPwGFMw1pgITgxz7Hgopz_eFm jGKOk7i.QN3zTOEB96AEN1lP4xDZQaxiTm7XXRqmozvC3UKN2ZPAACH99.E7CeR4msrsLOR6HmO9 WO9UWxL4- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic306.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:44:07 +0000 Received: by smtp427.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID f8f03b8a11e9cdb4b67557bac8f4d6ad; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:44:04 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:44:04 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Openness vs. Comfort Message-ID: <20200612184404.5fac9c85@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20200612173645.22d774a9.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20200612173645.22d774a9.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49k64p0Js1z3VZD X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.88 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[rocketmail.com:s=s2048]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[rocketmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[rocketmail.com,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[77.238.176.206:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.41)[-0.414]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.98)[-0.981]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34010, ipnet:77.238.176.0/22, country:GB]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[77.238.176.206:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:44:11 -0000 On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:36:45 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 15:37:42 +0200, Vincent DEFERT wrote: >> Unfortunately, this is not my case. For me, reading plain text >> messages is a torture. I made an effort in the beginning, but it is >> not possible in the long term. > >What exactly is your problem? You know that X can (for >decades!) zoom by pressing Ctrl+Alt+[+] and Ctrl+Alt+[-], >and as I said, MUAs and even ye olden X terminals (xterm) >have font size control. There are other tools that run >on X to help, like screen magnifiers, and there are of >course the application settings where you can choose a >minimum font size and a preferred font size (and font >face) for message text. That is a solved problem, I would >say. The font rendering of the email preview/view windows and the editor window could suffer from a font rendering, that is different from the the rendering of all other fonts. Sylpheed and Claws don't suffer from this issue, but Evolution does. You could use Ctrl+[+], Ctrl+[-] and Ctrl+0 (without the Alt-key) to resize the fonts in Evolution preview/view windows, but not in the editor window, however on my machine they are still blurry, even if they are larger. Evolution allows to chose other fonts as the rest of the system does use, so a user could chose any plain text font (s)he would use when formatting a HTML mail. Off-topic: Two times I changed my email address for this list by the web interface. Mailman claimed the changes are submitted and there's no confirmation mail in the spam folder. I'm not allowed to post to this list using the new address. If this mail should come through, the old address is kept. Any ideas? I'll try changing the address via email later.