From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 5 08:11:35 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BCB343F15 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 08:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c1000857a570.8d31c5380af4656174cb94938a790ff9@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49db2Y5lvbz4P4c for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 08:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c1000857a570.8d31c5380af4656174cb94938a790ff9@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1591344694; x=1593936694; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=Zh8HRm7Mp+16lKwoUASxnI7wyxXAxFMaEThiSBBca14=; b=b87rQcJTwPK/I8CxDxR5yFgc8CMRA26X9uPlLPOFmmRPFK7MW+chydDIyCZbKkrBwuNsReHZgdQ0pHCUayEaHvJipozb8AF06fqvKHPDwtrThU1hT6Dvn62XjujkFcmPeunf+MhP4aNKMOnJs4/jkY2XBBZJpX5qUjOybUk7EP0= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDg1N2E1NzAuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com (r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.179.12]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 5 Jun 2020 04:11:29 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r2.sg.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Fri, 5 Jun 2020 04:11:28 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jh7Rn-000MDH-9Z; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 09:11:27 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 09:11:27 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Polytropon Cc: dwilde1@gmail.com, freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Minimal skills Message-Id: <20200605091127.68ba4aada0a6b3511de24df6@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20200605035443.0eb7e60a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20200604005859.ca438474.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200604020051.0c02472d.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200604074134.89eb6518.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200605024331.51b34130.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200605030925.e4194867.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200605035443.0eb7e60a.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49db2Y5lvbz4P4c X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=b87rQcJT; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c1000857a570.8d31c5380af4656174cb94938a790ff9@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c1000857a570.8d31c5380af4656174cb94938a790ff9@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.09 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.02)[-1.020]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.98)[-0.976]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.39)[-0.393]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c1000857a570.8d31c5380af4656174cb94938a790ff9@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c1000857a570.8d31c5380af4656174cb94938a790ff9@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 08:11:35 -0000 On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 03:54:43 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > Seriously, I found that conversation quality (both in the audio > parameters and in the content) of smartphones is lower than with > nonsmart mobile phones and regular "landline" phones; There have been smartphones with good sound quality, mostly made by Motorola and hard to find. > I don't > know why. I'm old, so I will never understand what makes those > things interesting, I find them just plain boring. I do find it convenient to have my phone, camera, satnav, music player and wifi analyser all in one smallish package. I don't use any of them very often so if they weren't all in one package I'd probably wind up not carrying any of them. > I mean, you > can't even easily program them, what kind of computers are those? To me it's a pocket toolbox. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith