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John Baldwin wrote:
> > Java has several problems:
> 
> I still prefer it to C++'s problems. :)

These all devolve into programmer issues.  They are no worse
than the requirement to use prototypes or the "volatile"
keyword, which were added to C.


> > 1)    It can't do multiple inheritance
> 
> Interfaces are like multiple inheritance of pure abstract classes and are
> simpler to get right.

They are simpler, but they rob you of the ability to do
necessarily complex tasks.


> > 2)    You can instance classes without constructing them (the
> >       JavaMail API has a number of examples of this)
> 
> So?

It should not be permited to have unconstructed instances
lying around.  This all derives from Java trying to claim
that it doesn't have pointers, it has "references".

IMO, this was added for CS professors who still are unable
to distinguish pointer and array math.

As a friend of mine might says "Happy Prof Land" (the same
place where array indices are never out of bounds).


> > 3)    Strong typing is for weak minds
> 
> Or lazy ones. :)  I wouldn't use Java for OS hacking, but for applications,
> strong typing is more useful.

Sized types would be much more useful, particularly for C,
but ANSI keeps wimping out...

-- Terry

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