From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 18 17:47:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF6E16A468 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8491A13C45A for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l9IHlupF099124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:47:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1192734263; bh=BC4/l1bV/YtF7wCcqYmKgrn8vts=; h=DomainKey-Signature:Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NKNBrT3boXTRDh3 OGhVtrFD/UdndJtwFY3CJlTFEH0sEgcAcEQ5IJZqliy0QUM0Vw3Bgs/1Ptk6TN98ffq /N9w== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version:content-type; b=YjMgqtSsAKWu3ODTw+tiOPr0dTf2xthKKG5BvWkAQGMi1oWfeYveWQ7H7faB5W6JT Ze6tTuIVIOzlOw/kHrATg== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l9IHluAW099123; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:47:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from danm) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:47:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-Reply-To: <47176229.50904@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20071018133421.B92952@prime.gushi.org> <47176229.50904@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Two questions about UNIX(r) certification. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:47:58 -0000 On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >> I recently noticed that Apple's new OS, Leopard, is Unix certified. > > "UNIX Certified" what the #@$#$@ does that mean as far I know no one is > in a position to make such a statement except maybe the current owner of > the Unix trademark (sco if I am not mistaken) >From here: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html#unix Mac OS X is now a fully certified UNIX operating system, conforming to both the Single UNIX Specification (SUSv3) and POSIX 1003.1. Deploy Leopard in environments that demand full UNIX conformance and enjoy expanded support for open standards popular in the UNIX community such as the OASIS Open Document Format (ODF) or ECMAs Office XML. >> I'd imagine that the big reason that FreeBSD hasn't done this yet is: >> It costs a lot of money. > > And give SCO a reason to actually consolidate it's illegitimate claim to > be the steward of Unix when there is no such thing beyond the holder of > the trademark. >> >> >> That said, if in theory one were to try to get the operating system >> certified (say, to increase awareness and market share versus the >> penguinistas)... >> >> a) approximately how much money is "a lot"? >> >> and >> >> b) How far short, technically, does FreeBSD fall from the standard >> (we'll ignore operational semantics for the time being) > > MacOS-X is FreeBSD at it's core thus we are ready now (actually all > that is required is POSIX complience) Well, apple has also made changes to the OS in some ways, which was why I was asking. -- "Don't think of it as beer, think of it as a flavored motor oil." -Jeremiah Kristal, on Guinness 3/29/05, 9:52 AM --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org ---------------------------