From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Aug 2 21:59:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AB137B606 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:59:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03079; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:29:09 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:29:09 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Jon Hamilton Cc: Dale Wharton , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: cheapest laptop for FreeBSD? winmodems? Message-ID: <20000803142909.L87263@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20000803094137.P36094@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20000803030517.A40C016F@woodstock.monkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000803030517.A40C016F@woodstock.monkey.net>; from hamilton@pobox.com on Wed, Aug 02, 2000 at 10:05:17PM -0500 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 2 August 2000 at 22:05:17 -0500, Jon Hamilton wrote: > > In message <20000803094137.P36094@wantadilla.lemis.com>, Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Wednesday, 2 August 2000 at 19:57:20 -0400, Dale Wharton wrote: >>> Dale Wharton ve2ndw@rac.ca M O N T R E A L Te souviens-tu? > > [...] > >>> Jon, many thanks for your very constructive remarks. Your aside >>> about winmodems rang my bell (internet access is essential for >>> my purpose). >> >> You always have the option of a PCMCIA modem. That's what just about >> everybody does. > > The problem in this case is that the laptop in question can only use one > PCMCIA card at a time, so you'd have to choose between a modem or an ethernet > interface :( I think this would be a "drop dead" criterion for me. You need two slots. > I suppose another alternative would be to use a regular modem on the > serial port or a USB modem, but those have the obvious disadvantage > of being external and tedious to haul around, if you want them to be > mobile with you. Agreed. I've done that, and I don't want to do it again. >>> Which raises another question: how does one learn in advance if a >>> modem is a winmodem? The only literature that I saw, a brief spec >>> sheet on the Compaq Presario 1200-XL115, says simply "Modem 56kbps >>> with V.90 Support." >> >> It's almost impossible to get that out of the vendors. "You're not >> supposed to know". But I don't know of any laptop modems which are >> not winmodems. > > I don't know of any by name either, but I do recall someone on one > of the FreeBSD lists recently mentioning that they had found a > couple of models still with real modems, but I had already made my > purchase and wasn't paying much attention, so don't remember the > details. Jerry Dunham recently said there are none. Since he's ex Dell laptops, I suspect he knows what he's talking about. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message