From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Dec 9 16:44:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAC237B416; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 16:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.havk.org (user-24-214-88-13.knology.net [24.214.88.13]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBA0iChM030178; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 18:44:13 -0600 (CST) Received: by bsd.havk.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B4DC51A789; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 18:44:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 18:44:11 -0600 From: Steve Price To: Paul Murphy Cc: "David O'Brien" , lioux@FreeBSD.ORG, portmgr@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GNOME/KDE issue with disc1 Message-ID: <20011209184411.Z46667@bsd.havk.org> References: <20011207181333.A97777@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209012306.A96687@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209183512.1467.qmail@exxodus.fedaykin.here> <20011209142050.M46667@bsd.havk.org> <20011209151048.B92399@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011209192745.3597e2dc.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011209192745.3597e2dc.pnmurphy@cogeco.ca>; from pnmurphy@cogeco.ca on Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 07:27:45PM -0500, Paul Murphy wrote: >> Maybe we need an exclude list also. I know an underlaying issue is >> keeping dependencies together since we don't handle dependencies across >> CD's. GNOME and KDE are two very popular desktops and thus their basic >> bits certainly need to be on disc1. But due to the dependency issue, >> "lesser" related ports make the disc1 cut-off -- things like the 7.2MB >> (*compressed*) GNOME user documentation (which can easily be found on a >> website). >> > > Personally I would think disc1 should take a "lets get up and running" > attitude, and contain a "simpler" desktop. KDE and GNOME are way too > bloated for a _basic_ install. That was along the lines of what I was thinking as well. What we really need is a "sysinstall" that could handle packages across multiple discs. In the meantime couldn't we do something like put the must-haves on disc 1, put KDE on disc 3, and put GNOME on disc 4. The user still states their desire to setup KDE or GNOME during install and then a "first (re)boot" script would be run and ask for the appropriate disc to finish adding the desktop. In fact if we had a smart enough "first (re)boot" script when the machine came up for the first time we could use information like whether they were doing a net install or from a disc to show them a list of all the packages from which they can choose. If they are doing a disc-based install we'd have to prompt them to stick in the right disc but this would give us greater flexibility on what bits go on which disc and we could optimize the disc usage without having to put multiple copies of gd, xpm, png, and a bunch of other ports on every disc just to satisfy dependencies. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message