From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 10:12:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F7E16A4B3 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C1043FD7 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from emerger.yogotech.com (emerger.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3p2a/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23179; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:12:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by emerger.yogotech.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) id h9MHC2SR091551; Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:12:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16278.47714.351403.755887@emerger.yogotech.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:12:02 -0600 To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200310221155.40121.x@Vex.Net> References: <200310221155.40121.x@Vex.Net> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid cc: Lucas Holt Subject: Re: freebsddom and java's flaming hoops X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nate Williams List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 17:12:09 -0000 [ Javascript doesn't work with your proxy ] Ok, what do you propose? How do verify that the FreeBSD Foundation and Java teams fulfill all the legal obligations to Sun? > I also have the JDK 1.3 binary packge installed on a 4.8 box. It is amazingly > annoying to install as well, of course, due to having to grab it from a > special location, and click through the agreements and so forth... but at > least it installed... That it did, and you wouldn't believe the amount of time and effort required just to get a binary version released for FreeBSD. Alas, the few minutes you had to spend disabling your proxy apparently is more work than you can handle. > and there's a few less flaming hoops... clearly I'm > whining. But someone has to. (-: It's simpy amazing that anyone would want to continue working for free on this project when they are folks like you out there. Thank goodness there are others who appreciate what it takes. Nate ps. For what it's worth, in order to download *ANY* JVM from Sun requires that Javascript be enabled, so the FreeBSD project isn't requiring anything more than Java's company.