From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 21 09:42:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28929 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Wicked.eaznet.com ([206.62.254.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28909 for ; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eddie ([206.62.254.29]) by Wicked.eaznet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08178; Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:44:27 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <335B9146.568E@eaznet.com> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 09:09:43 -0700 From: Eddie Fry Organization: Creative Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Henrich CC: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: News... References: <5jdpms$dar$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <199704201917.PAA20332@crh.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Charles Henrich wrote: > > In lists.freebsd.isp you write: > > >Eddie Fry wrote in message ID > ><3357FEE5.4DBB@eaznet.com>: > >> I am in TOTAL agreement. I don't think anyone's going to lose customers > >> because they don't keep this junk on a local drive. If anything, change > >> your focus from "WE GIVE YOU EVERYTHING A SMUT-LOVER WOULD WANT" to "WE > >> GIVE YOU FASTER ACCESS AND DOWNLOAD SPEEDS" because we don't jam our > >> lines with smut. > > >Sorry, you lose. I know from experience :-( Customers have left > >webspan (the ISP I currently work for) because I had troubles with > >hard drive reliability in the early days and they went elsewhere to > >get their porn. And they were porn suckers, believe me. ALL the people > >who phoned to complain about the server being down, when cornered by > >tech. support, admitted that they were after a.b.p.e, even one who > >started out saying ``When is the news server gonna be back, my > >business depends on it!''. He never posted a thing, he just read. > > Hell, a very large percentage of ISP customers are using it for pornography. > Sex sells, always has, always will. The news statistics SHOW it, what, in the > top 100 read newsgroups 90% are alt.binaries.* related. If you dont carry > those groups, you lose/dont get customers, period. > > -Crh > -- > > Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu > > http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich Well, there I have to disagree with you. It's been our experience that newsgroups aren't that important to the non-smut-lovers. We started a POP January 1, and have had (to my knowledge) only TWO people turn away from us because we didn't have a news feed in that POP. OK, 90% of people using news are using the alt.binaries, BUT, how many people are actually using news? I don't think even 5% of our customer base is using the news libraries and then probably only 5% of the time. Eddie