From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Feb 16 19:27:57 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CEE54593F for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (mx1.dismail.de [78.46.223.134]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx1.dismail.de", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Dg9wr5ZpZz3DHf for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lumiwa@dismail.de) Received: from mx1.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ad6b4932 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:27:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de ( [10.240.26.12]) by mx1.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 79cb6c3e for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:27:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2.dismail.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id e2abe5e4 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:27:54 +0100 (CET) Received: by dismail.de (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id d5e56bc7 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO) for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2021 20:27:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 14:27:51 -0500 From: LuMiWa To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: laptops Message-ID: <20210216142751.01a2408f@dismail.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20210216134229.773fde3d@dismail.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Dg9wr5ZpZz3DHf X-Spamd-Bar: ------ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[dismail.de:s=20190914]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[dismail.de:dkim]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.46.223.134:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[dismail.de:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[dismail.de,reject]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[78.46.223.134:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:78.46.0.0/15, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 19:27:57 -0000 On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 22:15:46 +0300 Yuri Pankov wrote: > Pete Wright wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > On 2/16/21 10:42 AM, LuMiWa via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> Hi! > >> > >> I did search FreeBSD Wiki/laptops but I didn't find the answer. I > >> like to buy Thinkpad W541 or W550s (prefer W541) but I am not sure > >> if will work on FreeBSD. I want it to connect external monitor > >> which going through Nvidia graphics card which Optimus driver > >> supposed it works on FreeBSD 13. I found that installation works > >> on W520 and 530. > > I have a different Thinkpad with Optimus graphics - a P43s.=C2=A0 It > > mostly works, but have been pretty underwhelmed by the hybrid > > graphics of Optimus systems.=C2=A0 Not just with FreeBSD, but from what > > I gather its suboptimal on Linux as well. > >=20 > > To get it working on FreeBSD there is an open PR* that gets things > > working, and I can drive specific apps with the Nvidia GPU (via the > > "optirun" binary).=C2=A0 But there is a bit of level of effort getting > > it to work until we can get this PR over the finish line since I > > maintain a branch of the ports tree to just support the diffs in > > this PR. > >=20 > > One other issue I have is with the overall design of the Optimus > > design, the GPU is used to offload processing but the display is > > still driven by the Intel i915 GPU.=C2=A0 Depending on your use-case > > this may lead to reduced performance.=C2=A0 All in all I am very happy > > with this thinkpad, but if I had a choice I would have chosen a > > system with dedicated Nvidia or i915 GPU's rather than this hybrid > > approach. >=20 > I do not know what exactly "optimus" is, but e.g. in P51 I can select > either "hybrid graphics" (i915) or "discrete graphics" (nvidia > quadro). With the latter, I had no issues connecting external display. > _______________________________________________ Thinkpad has Intel and Nvidia. I like to use just Nvidia Quadro if is possible. I will do more research. Thank you.=20 --=20 =E2=80=9CTwo things awe me most, the starry sky above me and the moral law within me.=E2=80=9D Immanuel Kant