From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Sun Dec 10 20:52:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D927E9BEE4 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 20:52:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (host64.shmhost.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:a0:51d7::103:2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C35DE332A for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 20:52:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from francos-mbp.homeoffice.local (dslb-178-012-107-202.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de [178.12.107.202]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A2DE160B30; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:52:39 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: <5A2D9CEF.9020404@grosbein.net> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 21:52:38 +0100 Cc: Yuri , Igor Mozolevsky , freebsd security , RW Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3C567C04-1B10-4F8F-B503-55AE5F5D53D7@lastsummer.de> References: <97f76231-dace-10c4-cab2-08e5e0d792b5@rawbw.com> <5A2709F6.8030106@grosbein.net> <11532fe7-024d-ba14-0daf-b97282265ec6@rawbw.com> <8788fb0d-4ee9-968a-1e33-e3bd84ffb892@heuristicsystems.com.au> <20171205220849.GH9701@gmail.com> <20171205231845.5028d01d@gumby.homeunix.com> <20171210173222.GF5901@funkthat.com> <5c810101-9092-7665-d623-275c15d4612b@rawbw.com> <19bd6d57-4fa6-24d4-6262-37e1487d7ed6@rawbw.com> <5A2D8CDF.80903@grosbein.net> <5A2D9CEF.9020404@grosbein.net> To: Eugene Grosbein X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.99.2 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.0 X-Spam-Status: No score=-1.0 tagged_above=10.0 required=10.0 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED] X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 20:52:42 -0000 > On 10. Dec 2017, at 9:45 PM, Eugene Grosbein = wrote: >=20 > 11.12.2017 3:37, Yuri wrote: >=20 >> On 12/10/17 11:37, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >>> Hmm, you should not pass your traffic through the network operated >>> by lots of malicious operators in first place. No matter encrypted = or not. >>> There are plenty of alternative ways. >>=20 >>=20 >> Modern encryption protocols allow you to send traffic over insecure = networks and still maintain your security and privacy, so why not? >=20 > No, they don't. You get into MITM and then you have a choice: ignore = and run your connection anyway > or have no connectivity at all (using this channel). Both are bad, so = don't use such a channel from the beginning. You deconstructed the point you tried to make: With HTTP MITM you don't have a choice. ;) Cheers, Franco=