From nobody Wed Jan 31 10:15:56 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TPyc50Rckz57SMh for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2024 10:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from puchar.net (puchar.net [194.1.144.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TPyc40d1Hz4GYl; Wed, 31 Jan 2024 10:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=puchar.net header.s=default header.b=JPRakLA2; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wojtek@puchar.net designates 194.1.144.90 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=wojtek@puchar.net Received: Received: from 127.0.0.1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puchar.net (8.15.2/8.17.1) with ESMTPS id 40VAFvNn003184 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Jan 2024 11:15:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=puchar.net; s=default; t=1706696158; bh=Y26BCcFFxntiupSRZlBwnvHY4n+QUtdcv0wBUQvPmhU=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=JPRakLA21Mm/lsEzE7WzkP4JdqBI6ziGjPMgRpFS+lB9YQPXZ/BR8dU+SgMwYXdLf HUukis1tdjIdtAv3UGLejBT3FylK4phLjQgDQypO0wK1WiKzysjMm1OtX2nH7OHuMt UvKqNVxMVcBcXKCiK04q4M66eM25hlpTHnSGSQ4g= Received: from wojtek.intra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.intra (8.17.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 40VAFvs2028000; Wed, 31 Jan 2024 11:15:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.intra (8.17.1/8.16.1/Submit) with ESMTP id 40VAFuSn027997; Wed, 31 Jan 2024 11:15:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@puchar.net) X-Authentication-Warning: wojtek.intra: wojtek owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 11:15:56 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Antranig Vartanian cc: Alan Somers , FreeBSD Hackers , Warner Losh , Scott Long , =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Goran_Meki=E6?= Subject: Re: The Case for Rust (in the base system) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="3974694515-796881025-1706696157=:27992" X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; CTYPE_MIXED_BOGUS(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[puchar.net:s=default]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/mixed,text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:43476, ipnet:194.1.144.0/24, country:PL]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[puchar.net]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[puchar.net:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TPyc40d1Hz4GYl This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --3974694515-796881025-1706696157=:27992 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > I don’t want to do a what-aboutism, but if all we’re looking for is a good and > secure system programming language, the alternatives are nicer. The is no such thing as secure system programming language. Security come only from proper programming practices. --3974694515-796881025-1706696157=:27992--