From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 12 16:46:21 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2582233F877 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:46:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm1-x330.google.com (mail-wm1-x330.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::330]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49k67J2MdDz3VLr for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:46:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm1-x330.google.com with SMTP id c71so8755857wmd.5 for ; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 09:46:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pe4zO7JjI6lPqoJJH6qhceZFp4DJvIbiRitDwj1JyrU=; b=tYeCyml43yWXKi4tBqI/obGFTulOaqKbgyDc9gS4vU3z9vvr6wo4tMFirVThylgHWa pDLNJVRjCsGr9jP03IdyQfspi4LV6c1AQIFn7nu80aM2L7UAWUR8r9J0H7hfIBcmD8fz j1ii3QD7YBX1s6uBJPZXYVgj8ocl+dx5T0EsQJLhu6aT0aqrQN2YDd5Unu97iZqp7nPi dIr7puJ7CeH8Svb7TbA+ETREOg+YXwyPSLsEttdC7vQta0fDJTPAbZCCrLF/xTIGkbU5 ptv5zCpmLfFkAmfhBcWW/dN5UsgIrkeOQItHiFHOD7S8mdPkPSmwE2sWrJJ3sE74zfOg kg7Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530c0m5kITxxbd2n7fePtTq4PlaigquVDM2c5tJCiV30kyidPEjZ bK/DhxBob3wpSqQwCn4xmzVn6PMx X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzU92OLyFa54vz96SSvM05FHGsXW0SvEvkfbEUXaQ8O7CBnSrodKYyEJaSqMbtodW8cDvUcDQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:e914:: with SMTP id q20mr13742157wmc.145.1591980378299; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 09:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.222.66.16]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p16sm11633886wru.27.2020.06.12.09.46.17 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 12 Jun 2020 09:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 17:46:16 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Openness vs. Comfort Message-ID: <20200612174616.0db9e2ce@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.5 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49k67J2MdDz3VLr X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.18 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[2.222.66.16:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.005]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.02)[-1.023]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::330:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.15)[-0.151]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 16:46:21 -0000 On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 15:37:42 +0200 Vincent DEFERT wrote: > I don't know what you do when you have to solve a problem, but the > first thing most people do is google for it. > And what do you get when you google something? Links to web pages. > Which mean that if answers given on this list had some value, they > will be invisible to most people. The mailing lists are archived on various websites that are available to search engines. In my experience hits on these are more reliable than information on websites. Howtos quite often contain bad advice that goes uncorrected. Forums are similar, but they are fragmented across different websites, and in my experience they are of lower quality.