From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Oct 23 22:06:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C66C1E71A for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 22:06:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmt@burggraben.net) Received: from smtp.burggraben.net (smtp.burggraben.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:140:50a2::3:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ns.exwg.net", Issuer "Christoph Moench-Tegeder" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C86C9F8 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 22:06:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cmt@burggraben.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.burggraben.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA60B6002EE for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:06:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Scanned: by amavisd-new at exwg.net Received: from smtp.burggraben.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns.burggraben.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4UwSNn6WMYKF for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:06:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elch.exwg.net (elch.exwg.net [IPv6:2001:470:7120:1:922b:34ff:fe56:321]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "elch.exwg.net", Issuer "Christoph Moench-Tegeder" (verified OK)) by smtp.burggraben.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:06:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elch.exwg.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D9F60301EC; Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:06:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 00:06:51 +0200 From: Christoph Moench-Tegeder To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/jive deleted Message-ID: <20161023220651.GB81703@elch.exwg.net> References: <20161022024510.7cvnhc2fdh7h7arh@ozzmosis.com> <20161022092738.GA5690@lonesome.com> <14ff8102-d360-507e-a03b-2ed07b4a5823@aldan.algebra.com> <20161023160352.GX51420@home.opsec.eu> <8a01de23-0e4a-b7d9-cd3b-d6e1e4f44c3f@aldan.algebra.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8a01de23-0e4a-b7d9-cd3b-d6e1e4f44c3f@aldan.algebra.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 22:06:56 -0000 ## Mikhail T. (mi+thun@aldan.algebra.com): > > It's not delusions of moral superiority. It's common decency. > If it was "decent" in 1997, when obrien added it, it must still be > decent today, only 19 years later. Nothing has changed about "decency" > since then. Oh, it has changed. And it keeps changing, that's how it goes with social norms, culture etc. Mark has already explained that at least some of the terms are clearly offensive. This offensivenes may be more obvious to him as a native speaker, especially given that one needs some background to understand what this program tried to "parodize" and where some of the terms are derived from. Why can't we accept that a program which may be well over 30 years old, hasn't seen any update since 20 years, is more or less lost since some time and has no technical value (it's just some parody of a text filter) can be removed from the tree? Anyone who needs this port can install it on their own. Regards, Christoph -- Spare Space