From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 23 4:55:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.noos.fr (aragon.noos.net [212.198.2.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D91337B401 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 04:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 41916580 invoked by uid 0); 23 Oct 2001 11:55:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO C) ([212.198.39.178]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.75 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Oct 2001 11:55:27 -0000 Message-ID: <004b01c15bb9$9852b8c0$b227c6d4@C> From: "yvan" To: "Brett Glass" , References: <1003617187.3bd1fba3d31ff@webmail.neomedia.it> <1003617187.3bd1fba3d31ff@webmail.neomedia.it> <4.3.2.7.2.20011020213927.048a1780@localhost> <200110211547.f9LFlIB27704@dungeon.home> <4.3.2.7.2.20011021172532.04293960@localhost> Subject: Re: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping victims of terror)) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:55:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Actually, that land has changed hands so many times over > the centuries that any claim to "rightful" ownership of > it is arbitrary. But the Israelis are actually good > stewards of it. In fact, the Arabs living within Israel's > boundaries live better, and are treated better, than > those in Gaza and other areas ceded to the Palestinian > terrorists. Hello, This is the typical argument of a colonizer. If you look at South-Africans, British or French colonizers or any other colonizers they will tell you that they bring knowledge and civilization to their colonized population. Also, the second typical argument is that the local better-off with the colonizers. Yeah right! Taking them as low cost employees while maintaing a total economical embargo on the rest of Palestine. I do not think someone as stubborn as Brett could modify is point of view: the one the superior race colonizer. Put let me put this clear, I think that any people in the world would prefer to live poorer and to have their self-determination; Decolonization was all about that, people may not have the best infrastructure, wages, GDP (And Blacks in Africa or Palmestinian never had the same quality of life as the colonizers) etc... but they have their land, their rights, their language, their choice on how to use their resources best without anyone taking it out from their hands. Yvan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message