From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 24 09:31:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB924106566B for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (d80.iso100.no [81.175.61.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972F68FC16 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.4.9] (unknown [192.168.4.9]) (Authenticated sender: svein) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 098934F; Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:31:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4ABB3C5D.4010802@stillbilde.net> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:31:09 +0200 From: "Svein Skogen (listmail account)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pete References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <20090922135435.36a3d40e@lazybytes.org> <864oqu1urm.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4ABAA2CB.9030404@voidcaptain.com> In-Reply-To: <4ABAA2CB.9030404@voidcaptain.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: tmux(1) in base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 09:31:11 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Pete wrote: > Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote, in part: > >> Sergey Vinogradov writes: >>> I always wondered about are sendmail >>> and bind9. These are pretty heavy, and definitely are not used in every >>> single installation. Maybe someday I'll see sendmail and bind9 in ports >>> instead of base system. And yes, I know about WITHOUT_BIND= and >>> WITHOUT_SENDMAIL= :) > >> 2) Sendmail is used at least twice a day + once a week + once a month on >> every single FreeBSD installation in the world except those where the >> admin has intentionally installed and configured another MTA. > > That is to say, it's used by all systems that choose to keep using it. > Many don't. > *snip mail down to readable size* If you're really that dead set on having your system built without bind and sendmail, I propose the following solution (for you): echo 'WITHOUT_BIND="YES"' >> /etc/src.conf echo 'WITHOUT_SENDMAIL="YES"' >> /etc/src.conf The build and install world+kernel. Should solve your problem, shouldn't it? //Svein - -- - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- /"\ |Svein Skogen | svein@d80.iso100.no \ / |Solberg Østli 9 | PGP Key: 0xE5E76831 X |2020 Skedsmokorset | svein@jernhuset.no / \ |Norway | PGP Key: 0xCE96CE13 | | svein@stillbilde.net ascii | | PGP Key: 0x58CD33B6 ribbon |System Admin | svein-listmail@stillbilde.net Campaign|stillbilde.net | PGP Key: 0x22D494A4 +-------------------+------------------------------- |msn messenger: | Mobile Phone: +47 907 03 575 |svein@jernhuset.no | RIPE handle: SS16503-RIPE - --------+-------------------+------------------------------- If you really are in a hurry, mail me at svein-mobile@stillbilde.net This mailbox goes directly to my cellphone and is checked even when I'm not in front of my computer. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Picture Gallery: https://gallery.stillbilde.net/v/svein/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq7PF0ACgkQODUnwSLUlKRO/QCaAr+Kn9dB8HNq+lgcaom+QgW7 7kQAoIyMPu+AgW83oUEwJrp8kRwazYv/ =vU2E -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----