From owner-freebsd-current Thu Dec 31 17:23:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16299 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:23:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16291; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:22:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA05674; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:22:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:22:22 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199901010122.RAA05674@apollo.backplane.com> To: Greg Lehey Cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , donegan@quick.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail throughput (was: HEADS UP: Postfix is coming. new uid, gid required.) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :>> A possible plus for the (I think) minority where sendmail poses any :>> performance issues - I found sendmail to be quite capable of a hundred :>> thousand or so transactions per hour - for the few who need more - make :>> it a port - not the default... :> :> rob kolstad found sendmail to be limited to 120k emails per hour :> (eph?). its in a LISA paper he did recently. see www.usenix.org. : :Any suggestions about how to search for it? : :Greg This is not a good argument for replacing sendmail, considering the fact that 100,000 messages an hour is sufficient to handle the needs of a userbase of 100,000 users or more. BEST has two incoming mail servers, running sendmail, to support it's 30,000+ users and the mail rate is only 150 messages a minute (per server) at peak. BEST's outgoing mailing lists machine is our busiest mail box. The outgoing mail rate, doing the mailing lists for all best users (a few thousand mailing lists) is, at peak, around 1000 messages a minute at peak (around 60,000 an hour). Sendmail is not the lightest weight program in the world, but it is the most mature and it is relatively easy to configure it to resist all sorts of potential blowups, attacks, or whatnot. I think it's a bad idea to replace it in the base distribution and an even worse idea to put both sendmail and something else in the base distribution. This new mail program thingy should be a port. I would like to point out that there is nothing wrong with ports... hell, even 'less' is a port! -Matt :-- :See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers :finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key : :To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message : Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet Communications & God knows what else. (Please include original email in any response) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message