From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 18:49:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286351065673 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed@hoeg.nl) Received: from palm.hoeg.nl (mx0.hoeg.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:613:100::211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B4D8FC16 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ed@hoeg.nl) Received: by palm.hoeg.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1D5E91D316; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:49:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:49:29 +0100 From: Ed Schouten To: Hans Petter Selasky Message-ID: <20081107184929.GJ1165@hoeg.nl> References: <200811071134.42761.shoesoft@gmx.net> <200811071702.48123.hselasky@c2i.net> <20081107183801.GI1165@hoeg.nl> <200811071947.10612.hselasky@c2i.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="USvVzkgzuRvOAB6v" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200811071947.10612.hselasky@c2i.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: usb2: scanner no longer working X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:49:30 -0000 --USvVzkgzuRvOAB6v Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Hans, * Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > Basically there is nothing wrong with using chmod and chown. Hence USB > has its own directory system which is not part of devfs, it was > natural to also have a separate utility to set the permissions and > ownership, which might become more complicated than simply a user and > group. At EuroBSDcon this year I got some ideas about defining > functional permission groups, like permissions for all USB keyboards > for example, instead of permissions for individual devices. This > pradigm will then break with chmod and chown. But that's not the right direction. If we really want to do such things, we should add ACL support to devfs, which is already something we eventually want to do. I don't agree that we should create yet another namespace with permissions instead of using the traditional /dev directory. --=20 Ed Schouten WWW: http://80386.nl/ --USvVzkgzuRvOAB6v Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkUjbkACgkQ52SDGA2eCwWl/gCfSFEPLPZaW40CdgVBOEr5l96M CwoAn1xuL8OjzGL2UEQjsoraPuoklyXn =ggJ1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --USvVzkgzuRvOAB6v--