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Date:      Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:02:14 -0500
From:      Kevin Day <toasty@dragondata.com>
To:        Markus Boelter <m@freebsd.org>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: www.FreeBSD.org IPv6 broken?
Message-ID:  <883CE4E8-4B70-4C56-9F1B-A6BCE67D85B5@dragondata.com>
In-Reply-To: <20080412051535.GC36035@rebooten.de>
References:  <20080412051535.GC36035@rebooten.de>

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On Apr 12, 2008, at 12:15 AM, Markus Boelter wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Is the ipv6 routing to www.FreeBSD.org broken? This traceroute6 is  
> from a
> Comcast cablemodem line in Santa Clara, CA.
>
> traceroute6 to www.freebsd.org (2001:4f8:fff6::21) from  
> 2002:4c67:29ce::216:cbff:fead:95f9, 30 hops max, 12 byte packets
> 1  2002:4c67:29ce::21b:63ff:fef5:89a1  1.938 ms  0.422 ms  0.31 ms
> 2  2002:c058:6301::  70.306 ms  73.252 ms  71.707 ms
> 3  stf.ge-1.3.0-33.core1.chi.bb6.your.org  72.595 ms  70.735 ms   
> 71.919 ms
> 4  ge-0-0-1-107.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net  71.992 ms  70.133 ms  81.845  
> ms
> 5  xe-2-1-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net  69.469 ms  86.334 ms  71.393 ms
> 6  xe-2-1-0.cr2.iad1.us.nlayer.net  93.72 ms  89.703 ms  90.785 ms
> 7  xe-0.equinix.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  94.846 ms  98.588 ms   
> 96.885 ms
> 8  ae-0.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  102.865 ms  95.485 ms  95.3 ms
> 9  as-0.r20.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  173.125 ms  164.067 ms   
> 196.141 ms
> 10  ae-1.r21.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  170.93 ms  170.291 ms   
> 161.528 ms
> 11  xe-3-4.r03.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  174.246 ms  187.715 ms   
> 179.749 ms
> 12  * * *
> ^C


I'm with your.org, the 6to4 relay provider you're using there. There  
looks like there might be a MTU problem there possibly too... 12 byte  
packets work for me:

traceroute6 to 2001:4f8:fff6::21 (2001:4f8:fff6::21) from  
2001:4978:1:410:207:e9ff:fe13:5c82, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets
  1  stf.ge-1.3.0-33.core1.chi.bb6.your.org  0.642 ms  0.498 ms  0.438  
ms
  2  ge-0-0-1-107.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net  0.519 ms  0.421 ms  0.399 ms
  3  xe-2-1-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net  0.494 ms  0.431 ms  0.394 ms
  4  xe-2-1-0.cr2.iad1.us.nlayer.net  56.583 ms  18.452 ms  18.444 ms
  5  xe-0.equinix.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  23.696 ms  23.796 ms   
31.787 ms
  6  ae-0.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  23.825 ms  23.790 ms  23.865  
ms
  7  as-0.r20.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  78.954 ms  78.748 ms  84.759  
ms
  8  ae-1.r21.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  77.244 ms  71.859 ms  71.898  
ms
  9  xe-3-4.r03.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  111.361 ms  167.676 ms   
92.019 ms
10  ge-0.isc.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  164.071 ms  203.144 ms   
208.322 ms
11  gig-2-1-0.r7.pao1.isc.org  77.275 ms  77.120 ms  77.144 ms
12  ipv6gw-isc.freebsd.org  78.388 ms  78.822 ms  73.404 ms
13  www.freebsd.org  78.649 ms  78.716 ms  73.372 ms


but 1400 byte packets don't:

traceroute6 to 2001:4f8:fff6::21 (2001:4f8:fff6::21) from  
2001:4978:1:410:207:e9ff:fe13:5c82, 64 hops max, 1400 byte packets
  1  stf.ge-1.3.0-33.core1.chi.bb6.your.org  6.110 ms  0.984 ms  1.003  
ms
  2  ge-0-0-1-107.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net  0.974 ms  0.893 ms  0.833 ms
  3  xe-2-1-0.cr1.ord1.us.nlayer.net  0.516 ms  0.453 ms  0.442 ms
  4  xe-2-1-0.cr2.iad1.us.nlayer.net  18.559 ms  18.649 ms  18.588 ms
  5  xe-0.equinix.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  24.361 ms  24.249 ms   
24.193 ms
  6  ae-0.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  24.309 ms  24.405 ms  24.463  
ms
  7  as-0.r20.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  74.135 ms  79.199 ms  74.157  
ms
  8  ae-1.r21.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  72.514 ms  77.348 ms  77.665  
ms
  9  xe-3-4.r03.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  77.567 ms  77.494 ms   
77.521 ms
10  ge-0.isc.plalca01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net  71.997 ms *  77.345 ms
11  gig-2-1-0.r7.pao1.isc.org  100.200 ms  72.491 ms  77.545 ms
12  * * *
13  * * *

Even if I force our router to take a different path, it's no better:

traceroute6 to 2001:4f8:fff6::21 (2001:4f8:fff6::21) from  
2001:4978:1:410:207:e9ff:fe13:5c82, 64 hops max, 1400 byte packets
  1  stf.ge-1.3.0-33.core1.chi.bb6.your.org  1.204 ms  1.052 ms  0.952  
ms
  2  2001:470:0:7f::1  2.728 ms  0.593 ms  0.527 ms
  3  10g-3-2.core1.sjc2.ipv6.he.net  58.063 ms  58.138 ms  58.017 ms
  4  10g-3-2.core1.pao1.ipv6.he.net  58.649 ms  58.773 ms  58.782 ms
  5  he.pao1.isc.org  58.883 ms  58.779 ms *
  6  gig-2-1-0.r7.pao1.isc.org  59.597 ms  59.443 ms  59.497 ms
  7  * * *
  8  * * *


Since 6to4 is asymmetrical, I'm guessing the problem is the route back  
to 2002::/16 (6to4) from within ISC's network.

I'll open a ticket with ISC and see if we can figure out what the  
problem is together.

-- Kevin
your.org




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