From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 5 10:15:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0235616A4CE for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:15:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DBFA43D2F for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:15:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CxMyb-0005tQ-00 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:15:41 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (bts-0070.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.48.70])j15AFdfx015468 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:15:40 GMT Received: (qmail 35356 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Feb 2005 10:14:29 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:14:29 +0000 To: Steve Kargl Message-ID: <20050205101429.GA35168@peach.veggie.com> Mail-Followup-To: Steve Kargl , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org References: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050204192511.GA84359@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.11-PRERELEASE i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: the value of a journal filesystem? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:15:43 -0000 On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 11:25:11AM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > > [filesystem corruption at sources.redhat.com] > > I'm not sure if this is a ext2fs, ext3fs, or reiserfs, but > the 2nd paragraph is somewhat ominious. The notice does > statement whether the damaged filesystems are on other > disks or on disks in other machines (ie. nfs mounted). Red Hat has shipped with ext3 since about RH7, so my money would be on that. I used it some years ago and it seemed to be pretty robust although rather slow. I can't remember reading about corruption issues (I stand to be corrected though). Difficult to speculate as to what happened. I hope they do an analysis of some sort and publish. Red Hat customers will want to know under what circumstances an "enterprise OS" seemingly failed and then took so long to come back up. Not that I'm a customer or likely to be but a bit of transparency from a vendor is a good thing. -- Frank print "f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k" | sed 's/ //g' --->PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B<---