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Date:      Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:32:28 -0800 (PST)
From:      Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com>
To:        John Marino <freebsdml@marino.st>
Cc:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Removing documentation
In-Reply-To: <56C2075A.5000409@marino.st>
References:  <56C1E579.30303@marino.st> <20160215165952.6199743BFA@shepard.synsport.net> <56C2075A.5000409@marino.st>

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> This makes no sense.  Ports are not tied to base releases.
> And you think lack of developer resources is an invalid reason?

There was no mid-release issue with base as far as I know.  The issue was
with ports and by extension pkgng (and related -ngs).

> You know good and well that people kick the can down the road FOREVER.
> You could have announced it 3 years ahead and people would still scream
> NOT YET!  NOT YET!  This would NEVER happen in Linux!

The announcement
<https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-announce/2014-February/000077.html>;
was dated Feb 3 2014, leaving all of 7 months until the planned
deprecation.  Even if you could make a case that pkgng was ready (it
wasn't) 7 months is far less than the 2 calendar year and dozens of
person-year cycles required by some infrastructure-critical production
environments.  It's even farther from the 7+ years that other FOSS
distributions support their releases.

> It's a business, right?  You aren't talking about a shoestring hobby.

There's no need to shoot the messenger here.  I may be expressing an
opinion but it is one that is shared by all of my colleagues: developers,
administrators and managers alike.

Roger



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