From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 11 01:58:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA22646 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 01:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu (devnull@ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22640; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 01:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12GNU) id EAA11563; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 04:58:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 04:58:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199708110858.EAA11563@ethanol.gnu.ai.mit.edu> From: "Joel N. Weber II" To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG CC: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, hoek@hwcn.org, softweyr@xmission.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199708102137.OAA16731@hub.freebsd.org> (jmb@FreeBSD.ORG) Subject: Re: FTC regulating use of registrations x-url: http://www.red-bean.com/~nemo x-attribution: nemo x-foobar: Paranoia: A healthy understanding of the nature of the universe. Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk inner city schools are so dangerous for at least two reasons: the students that attend those schools the low level of funding per student many rural schools have only the funding problem, but are still "poor" schools due the way we have each school district self-fund through local property taxes rather than state-wide. Hawaii does have a state-wide public school system, and it's widely percieved as inadaquate. Hawaii also has many more private schools than the mainland. vouchers pay people to segregate themselves from the rest of the community increasing the factionalism that we suffer from today. I'm not sure that I agree with this. I lived for two and a half years in an area of San Diego called Rancho Penasquitos. It's a relatively affluent area; the house I lived in was four bedroom, three bathroom, three car garage house. One reason many people choose to live there is the good public school system. (Poway Unified School District is percieved as the good area; for various hysterical raisins it includes two communities that are a part of San Diego, as well as a seprate town called Poway.) I think that the poorest people who atttend Iolani School (on scholarships) are likely poorer than the poorest who attend Sunset Hills Elementary. (Most of my friends seem to be on scholarships, despite the fact that supposedly most people in the school aren't.) So it seems to me that where we have a competitive education system, different social classes will intermix more. Because with the current system, affluent people can buy homes in the more expensive areas, and thus get into the rich districts. for the ills that compulsory military service entails, one benefit is to create a common experience shared by a large number of the adult population. an experience that can serve to unify the citizenry (provided its not abused, as it was during the vietnam war) That is bullshit. My understanding is that if you went to college, you could delay getting into the war. And if you didn't get in the war in your first year of elibility for the draft, you likely wouldn't, because IIRC they would take every 18 year old they could before they strated looking at the 19 year olds. So if you got a deferment, you'd likely be way down the list by the time you were in the pool to be drafted again. And in general, the affluent are more likely to go to college. Anyway, I don't intend to go to college, but I am sure that I would try to find some way to avoid going into the military if there is a draft in the next few years (I'm 17 now). I think that making a career of killing people is just plain wrong.