From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 23 00:38:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA29784 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 00:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA29763 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 00:37:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA08436 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 03:39:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 03:39:20 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Current is Really Broken(tm) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (if you are involved with devfs, libdisk or CAM it's important that you read this imo) several major problems i've been smacked with the last couple of days: i'm using CAM, softupdates, devfs, ipfw, posix_sched and mfs, this is a -current system of about mid sept 22nd (yesterday) before you click your commiter teeth and say "don't run -current" let me say, i enjoy it, and try to give feedback on bad things like what i'm posting now. with the release date so close i hope someone has time to look at these issues: 1a) specifing the wrong "da" entry to mount and it will hang, you can ^C it though, then i tried to use disklabel on it, that hung and ^C didn't help. after that operations on the device reported "device busy" then i isuued a reboot, this caused a panic, which led to the next $@#$!@#$%!@ bug. 1b) after setting my dump device to /dev/wd0s1b after a crash freebsd happily wrote over a real partition with the system dump. this has happened twice, first my /usr on one box, then /var on another. 2a) the cam scsi devices (da) don't seem to appear (in devfs) until you mount them without devfs mounted, then unmount, then mount devfs, then remount, which leads us to our next bug 2b) after doing that, a ls in /dev (with it being devfs) causes a panic. 3) many applications still don't properly support DEVFS, sysinstall "can't find any devices" and disklabel returns an undefined error or hangs when accessing a partition do i have bad hardware? no i think not as my pre-CAM/+SLICE kernel happily chugged away at several buildworlds before rebooting into my worst nightmare. i noticed the "crash dumps were broken, but fixed now messages" let me assure you they are not. with -current falling over on a ls, i hope someone has the time to contact me before a release. my box at home is staying in this state for a couple of days if anyone wants me to test/do anything. i'll cvsup in a week or so assuming that: a) someone fixed some/most of this b) noone gave a hoot Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message