From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 2 02:35:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD986C9 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp2.wemm.org (smtp2.wemm.org [192.203.228.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp2.wemm.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0242132E for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 02:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by smtp2.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD22A84; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 19:35:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=m20140428; t=1409625308; bh=Z2nuQ3xrbLgMnaeHTKT38q8e3nMR4lTCergR31Q9y7E=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=ewlQjUtqqzv418R7N5NN1ZlQn4T2prbl/5wI7w/S2lNsk/8bV6z0qn/79EHr8kdu5 Ril7o7DLvlwfJz6HGRvoFtSVf/CTx3LBExV0iAqZs03Lgj3GMNjVi3kd8zk8gky7Kz nSyIWsoUC/wMYJp468SEQeEE5RvDDkui+F8EhnFI= From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 19:35:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4146485.LX4YG9YkhY@overcee.wemm.org> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.5 (FreeBSD/11.0-CURRENT; KDE/4.12.5; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <540520FA.5030609@sorbs.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <540520FA.5030609@sorbs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3179255.SrbDrKX4dD"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: Michelle Sullivan , Chuck Burns X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 02:35:09 -0000 --nextPart3179255.SrbDrKX4dD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Tuesday 02 September 2014 03:44:26 Michelle Sullivan wrote: > Chuck Burns wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 02, 2014 2:19:19 AM Michelle Sullivan wrote: > >> Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>>=20 > >>> The ports tree has been modified to only support pkg(8) as packag= e > >>> management system for all supported version of FreeBSD. > >>>=20 > >>> if you were still using pkg_install (pkg_* tools) you will have t= o > >>> upgrade > >>> your system. > >>>=20 > >>> The simplest way is > >>> cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg > >>> make install > >>> then run > >>> pkg2ng > >>>=20 > >>> You will have lots of warning, don't be scared, they are expected= , pkg_* > >>> databases used to get easily mangled. pkg2ng is most of the time = able to > >>> deal with it. > >>>=20 > >>> If however you encounter a problem then please report to pkg@Free= BSD.org > >>>=20 > >>> A tag has been applied to the ports tree if you need to get the l= atest > >>> ports tree before the EOL of pkg_install: > >>> https://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/tags/PKG_INSTALL_EOL > >>>=20 > >>> A branch has been created if some committers want to provides upd= ates on > >>> the for pkg_install users: > >>> https://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/branches/pkg_install > >>>=20 > >>> Please note that this branch is not officially maintained and tha= t we > >>> strongly recommend that you do migrate to pkg(8) > >>>=20 > >>> Best regards, > >>> Bapt on behalf of portmgr > >>=20 > >> And for the portsnap users? > >=20 > > Uhh.. continue using portsnap? Why would that matter?? >=20 > Because those who have not changed to pkg because of the continual > changes and issues (and that I have 50+ servers to migrate - and was > told that bapt was going to *knowingly* break the ports tree for anyo= ne > not upgraded on Sept 1 - just 1 day after the EOL - with just 20 odd > days notice)=20 20 days notice?!? Where have you been? The first mention I can find of an actual deprecation is October 2012 w= here it=20 says it'll be on or after April 2014, after the EOL of the last release= that=20 used pkg_install - which was 8.3: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2012-October/078937.h= tml There was a series of larger notices, eg: Oct 10, 2012: [FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] [HEADSUP] current switched by default to pkgng= July 2013: [FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] [HEADSUP] No more pkg_install on HEAD by defau= lt October 30, 2013: [FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available= for=20 pkgng .. which includes "The pkg_install suite of tools pkg_create(1), pkg_add(1), and pkg_info(1) (which ports also use), are deprecated and will be discontinued in roughly 6 months." 4 months later, (Feb 2014) formally gave an additional 6 month warning:= https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-announce/2014-Februar= y/000077.html And a giant flashing light was added at the same time in Feb 2014: =2D----------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D r342537 | bapt | 2014-02-04 06:23:08 -0800 (Tue, 04 Feb 2014) | 6 lines= Add a user warning so that everyone get a notice about the upcoming EoL= of=20 pkg_install Add a end user NO_WARNING_PKG_INSTALL_EOL to allow users willing to sta= y a bit=20 more with pkg_install to not get bothered all the time with the warning =2D----------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D It's really loud and annoying: +.if !defined(WITH_PKGNG) && !defined(NO_WARNING_PKG_INSTALL_EOL) +WARNING+=3D=09"pkg_install EOL is scheduled for 2014-09-01. Please con= sider=20 migrating to pkgng" ... +.if !defined(WITH_PKGNG) +=09@${ECHO_CMD} "@exec echo pkg_install EOL is scheduled for 2014-09-0= 1.=20 Please consider migrating to pkgng" >> ${TMPPLIST} Those warnings are kind of hard to miss. This has been in the pipeline for years and was highly visible. =2D-=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI= 6FJV UTF-8: for when a ' or ... just won\342\200\231t do\342\200\246 --nextPart3179255.SrbDrKX4dD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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