From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 11 15:20:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CC44F18 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CED4D26EE for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bdrewery (uid 1298) (envelope-from bdrewery@freebsd.org) id 404 by freefall.freebsd.org (DragonFly Mail Agent v0.9+); Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:20:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 21557 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2014 10:20:24 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO roundcube.xk42.net) (10.10.5.5) by sweb.xzibition.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2014 10:20:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:20:23 -0500 From: Bryan Drewery To: Max Brazhnikov Subject: Re: svn commit: r364287 - head/ports-mgmt/pkg-devel Organization: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <9845655.c1l7BLfd1M@mercury.ph.man.ac.uk> References: <53e39939.55bc.4ca5432c@svn.freebsd.org> <53E7D193.3090305@FreeBSD.org> <53E7F110.7010105@FreeBSD.org> <9845655.c1l7BLfd1M@mercury.ph.man.ac.uk> Message-ID: X-Sender: bdrewery@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.0.1 Cc: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, Vsevolod Stakhov , svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Matthias Andree , Tijl Coosemans , Matthew Seaman X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:20:26 -0000 On 2014-08-11 02:07, Max Brazhnikov wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 23:24:16 +0100 Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 10/08/2014 21:09, Vsevolod Stakhov wrote: >> > Nonetheless, doesn't our ports policy defines to bump PORTREVISION in >> > all cases that modifies a resulting package? Shlib provides/requires >> > changing is definitely such a change. So you blame now pkg that it >> > follows the current policy, don't you? >> >> Bumping PORTREVISION in this situation is the standard policy only >> because we previously lacked the tools to update dependent ports on >> shlib ABI changes without it. >> >> Ideally, pkg(8) will be able to make that policy obsolete by >> automating >> away the manual reverse-dependency tracking that should be (but is not >> always) being done at the moment. > > It won't work in all cases anyway. I can give examples of ports, that > must be > rebuilt if dependency gets updated, and it's not related to shared > libraries. PHP extensions are like this. Must be rebuilt on every PHP version bump - and reinstalled. Currently pkg does not recognize this, and committers are not bumping revisions either. It would require bumping all PHP extension ports. Including non-obvious ones such as devel/ioncube, devel/eaccelerator. -- Regards, Bryan Drewery