From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 17 19:23:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9B016A41C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:23:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A3843D5C for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:23:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.NUXI.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5HJNWDW015435; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:23:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.NUXI.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.NUXI.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j5HJNW9b015434; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:23:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:23:32 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Chuck Swiger Message-ID: <20050617192332.GE13006@dragon.NUXI.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Chuck Swiger References: <20050615054209.L29741@beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> <20050615160741.GA55062@dragon.NUXI.org> <88862BDF-ED45-42CE-9B24-DEEED2E66C2C@mac.com> <20050615.212337.108191340.imp@bsdimp.com> <42B10804.2010308@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42B10804.2010308@mac.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: groff alternative? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:23:33 -0000 On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 01:03:00AM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Perhaps there won't be a rush of code adoption from OpenSolaris into > FreeBSD, but it would be a surprise and a pity if there was nothing to be > learned. I'd imagine that the Solaris NFS code would be worth looking at, > for instance. > > Lots of license flavors are handled OK via src/contrib and throughout the > entire ports collection now. It's not as if CDDL-licensed code is going to > sneak up and infect existing BSD-licensed code; the two licenses are > miscible. ... > Well, there's no shortage of wacky opinions about people running > proprietary code on top of GPLed systems. For example, Eben Moglen and > Bruce Perens would like to sue ATI and nVidia for releasing proprietary > drivers for Linux. [1] So? Do we want FreeBSD to be in the middle of the courts again? 1994 was enough for me. We want free, do anything you damned well please code. Unless there is a *compelling reason*. > 4-sec% /usr/bin/nroff --version > GNU nroff (groff) version 1.19 > 5-sec% uname -a > FreeBSD sec.pkix.net 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #0: Sat Jun 11 > 00:25:38 EDT 2005 root@sec.pkix.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NORMAL i386 > > This seems to be from src/contrib/groff? Yes. But the issue is, why trade one piece of non-BSDL licensed code for another non-BSDL licensed piece of code?? What does changing from Groff to Solaris Troff actually buy us?? Groff is the standard in Roff. Even people writing books on systems with a native Troff install Groff to get a more powerful and easier to use Roff. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)