From nobody Tue Oct 22 04:10:56 2024 X-Original-To: dev-commits-ports-main@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XXdyX1wkTz52L7X; Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfechner@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XXdyX1RNZz42G3; Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:11:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfechner@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729570260; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=M7niXTy8sFCvVLHKaTpPYY4ZaU+TUG35OiOSbxTY/14=; b=FYf/VTuGLrjswR8DPrGMfiNYJJsrbbRYrj5H4LwEitR/zlDVBPmbvBMGbjAuvPJfuPsA71 nAd0OszA74/XEPubzPBNtIN5ELhWMugSfGwuPQVcMPyRv48FdmEkwPwEmrm7kT4BUgM/l1 CDr8Ih4eyxnWMF5caVBdldOXtMhAhwYdPNVH1gAM0CclVS+KTeNYOmQebTDdzT2IK9mMz2 pSil2/MOHi7M/iA3wTrP+PoP7tE8xmjJVlcrE4U7lJXUf1hUc+U+qwqrTvPo7QsVQVsMDu cJcI5kZw2hNNgeGAwKYXai/av2PN0iE3tZIoPn2yzGpWzNsmMMoOPa8p1JWF9g== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1729570260; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=M7niXTy8sFCvVLHKaTpPYY4ZaU+TUG35OiOSbxTY/14=; b=mf6xeEl6E8A7lvl1A7f8EjHk7q/9bzlPu9jNBpKt4SqB9yBRRD/+TwPXxbF5EhrsT0Ro1f 5iAw0i87g1LP1upuN0TICL4/vzIY0E0TEZ7zH9/tYo3AY2KXjJ/JFDmIW9+Qmy1WCKdvRU HGfJ+bmW7+xH0/bN+V6vN+0ypdG01KLS7xwsM2indrrt3qnSOJf/aqzuf5N6RPEKX9Gfk7 LXVXYTsHkiClniBIOWnuvxxgA95w6cc4jKFxp/sA6HV/uOgUSItliSVA3VvvSzLs5XeOVI 8AVWmn3lreNRwbQ14EsCCwvRwcIrTj1E66BGMRYpfM5HyagWwSz3LtB9MnU9Cg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1729570260; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=mf8uvUx1wnX8YHbxsHMWKfQsuGyLkUN7Cw6bAOKs2cmitxoRVULxqQ+9jf5UP7EbWrxFEh fuKRoANWC1vKeJNJx/I9czWKomBaqNu47VDg9QuAmeirpPQ7wgN61OvIkVKhbUbs4nNUK2 k9UhUwA87jS70RQajEN+0yyPnqAflxNe3qeel6CyEQCfoI8ku7nUSHzExIX0BVU9csDYQM hVyxF0U2RIkCVhg+EXPsSGFnmbeiqRkmK+r6kKFfxTfVa+4bIb1Tya+IZoHViGfEArxS1p A1Y5AcUUA9/miT3VKyIxoe3cUY4kxrn8iw7fMbpY7keEXdt1dBCD7Lw0AN2jhw== Received: from [192.168.1.151] (unknown [212.108.151.27]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: mfechner) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4XXdyW1bSWz1HL8; Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:10:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfechner@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <65eefb24-8a33-4e32-8555-edc823cdd014@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 07:10:56 +0300 List-Id: Commits to the main branch of the FreeBSD ports repository <dev-commits-ports-main.freebsd.org> List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/dev-commits-ports-main List-Help: <mailto:dev-commits-ports-main+help@freebsd.org> List-Post: <mailto:dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:dev-commits-ports-main+subscribe@freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:dev-commits-ports-main+unsubscribe@freebsd.org> X-BeenThere: dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org Sender: owner-dev-commits-ports-main@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: git: 2b48bc59c42b - main - ports-mgmt/poudriere-dsh2dsh: added fork of poudriere 3.4.99.20240812 To: Daniel Engberg <daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net> Cc: ports-committers@FreeBSD.org, dev-commits-ports-all@FreeBSD.org, dev-commits-ports-main@FreeBSD.org References: <202410211754.49LHsdio059991@gitrepo.freebsd.org> <c296efa8574620b2e15a94962b7da973@mail.infomaniak.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Matthias Fechner <mfechner@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <c296efa8574620b2e15a94962b7da973@mail.infomaniak.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Am 22.10.2024 um 00:33 schrieb Daniel Engberg: > While we do not have any written guidelines about the selection of > projects to be added to the tree this seem like a counterproductive > move given it's maintained within the FreeBSD umbrella already and > also potentially be perceived as poor management. Can you please > elaborate about the reasoning of adding this to the tree? I do not understand why this is a problem. The new version bring some signification performance improvements which is very helpful to users. For me, it drops the compile time of go based ports from 20-40 minutes to 2 minutes which is a massive improvement for poudriere. And if the developers do not include this modification, this is fine. But I think it is only fair to give also the user a change to decide and therefor are forks existing. Using a fork enable us to battle test new features without have an effect to stability of the core poudriere. If the port get many installations that would also give an idea to the developers how popular these modifications are and they can be included upstream. Sry, but I do not get the point, why that would be counterproductive, I see it exactly the opposite, it will help the poject to better get an idea if these modification are requested by the community and if they work. Gruß Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook