From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Wed Dec 20 14:09:23 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E57E8AFEE for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:09:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dbkirk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pl0-x229.google.com (mail-pl0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6A406E98A for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:09:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dbkirk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pl0-x229.google.com with SMTP id d21so9061032pll.1 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 06:09:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Jr+eKfPJX8kn4osWEX6UxCTolWXaqnFZFnai6GZbXaQ=; b=rORjFGgcMJWubq9x1xUKmVeUj/YoN/X6ME1EwR4uVWnt/h3LDvpj0MJi1XaI5H/aD0 MNzJs6y2VwR2SmlHDj95h/o33Jdv33DsgE2jbGT/wkggqpWJMU3XCVmx+6LZCg8JnH5s a5D7piagg7QWoiGIxzxjVZ7Oeg9/vw2Fsz1hpl1zT1Hk09PGwpTy5hXEEKmp974+ypsX RfNYcxx+C3DSTrhQ5Jgj0bgOA1ufZxAf10fnY5U9Hwxw9zVRkAXbg4U3dJJgfseJWhVs 5Y55k05zcVNB2ufNvDafFWpRDDzoFPDuxWe1EkfE2Z206rCvV5GvGzYtACwB+lnEO0S0 +TjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Jr+eKfPJX8kn4osWEX6UxCTolWXaqnFZFnai6GZbXaQ=; b=K0nIN6cZvX7KPaIjQJE5itEEGqAtGnQKi1wSfweOVNV4KtGoKt89Z3EPwyTiw9pkrJ TFZdJhQd4tbo9KRl9jpzXM5ABGuvIPOrWCLakNysPiz84+qZN6qNWmyPSswfqlPUTbyI 5YLxL6mh9Xc1jUVJzbSq33vT3MD8NQCbSo05khK29EbS/CMSdmHUtHhlbATU8hr7J3QM XoGgYZf6ACuoWxubRyniLpX9T7Ot5bfOGwehYYLGzw+AlCH5mbGbNiwTnVbM1G0eOgdZ BZhqgWMnCiSvG1Qh7EfUk742dgSha87gnhhq9CkGkGIxr52mxoScq2AIXEUo+iqNL7Ie G3lQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mL07HjFJZCi1htWR0ueLD42jdOus4uBn4nyx/ULUyiNoa5M46IG btuDMcZjlcG6UkmAseg3iBJ1LC6r7qMGPs1/bLE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBosAywNJ+Y3LmpRKOt6g3KW0JOv6PiwWiE0Rsbaosse6Dli9k5+ENMhfhdrCBtH6cWyGKpboQZgpUVXwOZgtepE= X-Received: by 10.84.164.162 with SMTP id w31mr7107411pla.388.1513778961956; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 06:09:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Doug Kirk Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:09:11 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Vote: making wayland=on default (also posted to ports@) To: Johannes Lundberg Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:09:23 -0000 +1 On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 5:56 AM Johannes Lundberg wrote: > Hi > > I want to suggest that we enable wayland by default. In current state > having some parts of wayland in ports is basically useless the > end-users themselves re-build gtk30 and mesa-libs with wayland > enabled. > > libwayland-egl.so from mesa-libs and the extra libraries and headers > from gtk30 adds like a few KB, a drop in the ocean compared to xorg > packages. (might be something more that I missed) > > Personally I see no reason not to make it default on, even with > flavors coming up. For any Desktop user (as well as embedded devices > like IVI-systems and whatnot), Wayland is the future. There's no > escaping that. > > Wayland has been quite usable on FreeBSD for over a year now but > access to it is limited due to the extra efforts required to use it. > > If we are to compare with the other guys, several Linux distros are > already switching to wayland-based compositors as default window > server. > > What do you think? > > > Edit: This does not break or modify anything existing. It does not > force you to do anything different. It simply adds a couple of > libraries that you won't use unless you run wayland stuff (if you > install gtk30 and mesa-libs). > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-x11@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-x11 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-x11-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >