From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Mon Dec 4 00:11:50 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D381E6D40E for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 00:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C426F8FB for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 00:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D72C0E6D3F6; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 00:11:49 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D7DE6D3F5 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 00:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x236.google.com (mail-it0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9821C6F8F9 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2017 00:11:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x236.google.com with SMTP id z6so8766232iti.4 for ; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 16:11:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=0px8+3Hzpftf+S0fWHUKOB0xZI8o85W4GOnq5YikfB4=; b=ijJWUHp5jkQh2feWhlykn66/qQEvoz3BqPUhqiY+JdRkI7hF+wPcpO6g3NeDSSMPGp 8pJNZFLLrkMUe4IMU55cf+mEc84KbFadblLRdKkisvIktgRL0KuvPDBqZn7Yz9q5cJ6Z DrH4y4DIVPsjwkCuHy3oT617ljmsFNGOpIk5zf9zJFA8L0DsVwjqjRZNeZab6CEXHZhO z/arJzEX8KPIHF4LS5ESpbtpA3jrK4GzEVavvDeZKtctDVKkkc7ehg0qHb9IcWq5aJ72 UnCfC/n+TwWDa5nsbMVp4QBhc4uyTDK8xzcjYWCUgKn2KH4qV/A0bHfS435Vyow7JtP6 yd9Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0px8+3Hzpftf+S0fWHUKOB0xZI8o85W4GOnq5YikfB4=; b=D6jGrr5AB3XLpFS4QgzI6v+JwYfYzkaNVKCBDZ1ienda5wqkC9x/pUv6mYaHPaPhWF utRaCZk+w+mPNK+auT5d0ccgHW/kuqHP7A0XNV7h1V9piVrZ7kfamOlEn3qQ0PwGvaId rfVXUlu1y1Zf4goQWasr63OZJ6mecUADhgtMozELrIa+99Dqb+FfUTRHzXKKSrbvvyAu Sqw2S88kMbe/7CDfncKZUmjObIZYckbXin520VWwcsvj6HLWYPDhhAO1dNq81OCJKFwm ZSvTA2XlPOyOktQpXNhWvf4Nrh1rcxqc8N6CSdsj2I8n0fREMRcJQCZiU6t8M010d6Ys ozzw== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX6FohYs9yYyoHtf67QhESy3PMFiHnzaNoOWgz/qvEQgKNpYd3e5 8LiPHCXxXUDWPlUth8WWvn0Tcj96jssy5R1Ki0R6QQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMac4Kj8TYxrTEYrO5ylq7puP4yy6av3Ml2oWfVtvl60/jx8a+W4Dblqh4aZ+SH1Dduq7Wn4ScJPxUybYwZECpo= X-Received: by 10.107.30.81 with SMTP id e78mr20955282ioe.130.1512346308920; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 16:11:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.108.204 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 16:11:48 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: References: <201712031655.vB3GtIME041023@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <201712032005.vB3K5Zki034723@slippy.cwsent.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 17:11:48 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BEYdufUYhOEzpwC2Qf3IkfDZYJo Message-ID: Subject: Re: Deprecating / Removing floppy drive support To: Adrian Chadd Cc: Cy Schubert , Hans Petter Selasky , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2017 00:11:50 -0000 On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > [snip snip] > > If someone wants to support it, and it doesn't make things in other > places harder ... why not do it! > > It at least keeps our APIs honest.. > If it actually works on real hardware, something we have conflicting reports on at the moment... And we seem to be short of the 'someone' that would be able to take up the banner of wanting to support it, having the skill to support it and demonstrating the time is there by fixing bugs... Warner