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> I'd like to remove armeb before 12.0.
> 
> It's poorly supported today.
> 
> Nobody has tested the concurrency kit changes on it. And ck is now
> mandatory. We don't even know if it works or not.
> 
> Last time we asked, it took quite a while to find users.
> 
> It maxes out at 256MB of RAM. This is barely large enough for FreeBSD to
> run in.

64MB is usable for 32 bit archs, I have many VM's running in
that configuration, so this item should not be in this list.

> 
> The hardware was last made almost a decade ago.
> 
> It uses non-standard non-mainstream boot loaders (boot technology has moved
> on from redboot).
> 
> The cost of doing API sweeps, make universe runs, etc exceeds the benefit
> to the project.
> 
> So, given all these factors, it sounds like a good candidate for retirement.
> 
> Therefore, I'd like to remove it on July 15th.
> 
> Comments? (please keep  them on topic to this specific thing: there's other
> things that may also be past their freshness date, we'll discuss those in a
> separate thread).

Given all the other valid reasons, I have no objection to removal of armeb.


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Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org