From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 6 18:26:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC7C16A4CE for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:26:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BD443D1D for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:26:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) j06IQjxx084515; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:26:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j06IQica057959; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:26:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j06IQifH057958; Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:26:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wb) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 19:26:44 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "William H. Magill" Message-ID: <20050106182644.GA57934@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200501031101.j03B1wtR006075@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 4.11-RC1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Documentation and similar issues with 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 18:26:52 -0000 On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:41:28AM -0500, William H. Magill wrote.. > As I'm learning FreeBSD after a long career with Ultrix/DU/Tru64, I am > finding that A LOT of the documentation not only does not refer to 5.3, > but is EXTREMELY PC oriented. > > 1) Is there any Alpha oriented documentation? Yes :) See http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/hardware-alpha.html It is also on the CD in txt format. > 2) Does anybody have any descriptions of "rational" disk layouts for > 4 or 9 gig drives? [Both boot and "other"] > ... especially since I have a "blue" SW shelf of "VW" drives. You could use Auto from sysinstall for a start. > 2A) The obsolete documention (#3 below) refers to some kind of > "dedicated > to FreeBSD" concept (again, clearly a PC concept)... PeeCee.. yeah.. > but, bsdlabel complains if one newfs the "c" partition (i.e. whole > disk). > > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 17773508 16 unused 0 0 > c: 17773524 0 4.2BSD 2048 16384 28528 # "raw" part, > don't edit > disklabel: partition c is not marked as unused! > disklabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard > system utilities newfs 'a' instead. > > 3) Does anybody have a description of the disk initialization process > which applies to 5.3? > > The "diskformatting tutorial" hasn't been updated since 1997, and is > simply wrong! > The "handbook section 16.3.1 is also wrong. No need to format SCSI disks in your StorageWorks shelf. > Probably the most glaring "error" I find is a constant reference to > "fdisk" which no longer exists! fdisk is a PeeCee concept, it is not used on Alpha. > 5) The drives I am playing with at the moment are: > > "Blue" StorageWorks in a Blue Shelf -- DS-RZ1DA-VW 9.1G -- recognized > by SRM as: BB00911CA0 FW: 3B05. > > "disklabel -A da1" displays the drives as 3600 RPM, when I know they > are 7200 RPM drives. It displays 3600rpm for everything. Not to worry. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org