From owner-cvs-all Sun Sep 6 23:35:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26237 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 23:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA26232 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 23:35:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16845; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 23:35:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35F37E9D.3B9582B3@dal.net> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 23:35:09 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0905 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin Makefile src/lib Makefile src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist src Makefile.inc1 src/usr.bin/vi Makefile src/usr.bin/tclsh Makefile src/lib/libtcl Makefile References: <17203.905074634@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > I'm not bitching about Tcl, I'm bitching about the necessity of > > including it in the base system. Tcl is relatively big (comparing > > Then come up with a better way of having something in the "base" > system like the new installer (which is TCL based) and the new package > system (which is TCL based) somehow get the bits they need during a > world build, assuming that the user may or may not have the ports > collection on their machine (which is a reasonable assumption). The last time this topic came up a lot of people said that the cost of having tcl in the base was higher than the value of the new tools. THAT is the true cost/benefit analysis. "We are adding tools that need tcl, so we must have tcl in the base" is a red herring argument. The fact that new tools that don't use tcl might not get written is not a factor for me, although it may be for others. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** At Barry (a small town in south Wales) hidden cameras have had to be installed to keep watch on the town's CCTV [Closed Circuit Television] to record acts of vandalism against the CCTV. - Privacy Forum