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On 12/22/2013 12:04 AM, Steve Kargl wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:14:39PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>> this has been done and activated for reason, first for lot of companies,
> companies can turn it on it they want it.

And if you want to save the few extra kB, you can turn it off...

>> secondly I receive tons of request to actiavte on by default while
>> you are the first to request it off by default
> I certainly can't refute 'tons of [private] requests'.  There is
> no discussing of such logging in freebsd-current, freebsd-hackers,
> or freebsd-ports lists.
>
> Other than the noise in /var/log/message, what does this provide
> that 'pkg info' doesn't!  Please turn of this feature by default.
>

Actually, you are the one making noise...