From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 12:43:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CDD64F5 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:43:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars.engels@0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.76.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579A012AB for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 0x20.net (0x20.net [217.69.76.212]) (Authenticated sender: lala) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C56546A6001 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:43:07 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:43:07 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: Subject: Re: Fwd: GSOC: Qt front-ends In-Reply-To: References: <60A4F968-60A4-4C71-AD53-BA1BC6CBAB5F@longcount.org> Message-ID: <8af7c4b114d6f1a44cf157a64fee3a7f@mail.0x20.net> X-Sender: lars.engels@0x20.net User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.7 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:13:00 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:43:10 -0000 Am 24.04.2013 13:44, schrieb Chris Rees: > On 24 Apr 2013 05:36, "Justin Edward Muniz" > wrote: >> >>> >>> Justin I say stick to FreeBSD-update . My reason is, as Pkgng >>> becomes >>> more popular , a front end for ports will be less useful as binary > packages >>> become more popular . Kports is a monster program , you should set a >>> reasonable goal ,and target dates; which may be hard with a cleanup > project >>> . Also a update notifier for kde that handles FreeBSD update would >>> be >>> very useful . >>> >>> My 2cents . >>> --- >>> Mark saad | mark.saad@longcount.org >>> >> >> >> Thank you very much Mark, >> >> I was definitely hoping to get community feedback on this, and I > value >> you voicing your opinion. I agree that kports is a mammoth, and also >> that > a >> system updater GUI should have a way to notify the user of new >> updates. >> >> Any other perspectives are welcome, as well as support for a >> freebsd-update approach. I am working to refine my proposal, which as >> you've pointed out is very important. Eventually I would like to help >> in >> all three mentioned areas, but for now I must focus on one >> application. >> Does anyone think that a custom kernel configuration and management >> GUI >> utility would be desirable? >> >> I will shape my goals to meet the needs of the community. > > Our kernel is actually very easy to configure, so I'm not convinced > that > it's needed; you may be thinking of Linux's menuconfig, but I think > that is > because of the complexity. It _is_ easy. But having a nice graphical tool which draws a pretty table of GENERIC and NOTES together with useful information about the possible options and devices would be a handy thing to have IMHO. Let's make FreeBSD userfriendly :-)